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(CW: institutional-grade milk) Picture of a handful of lima beans and half a piece of toast: https://i.imgur.com/mu2p8mv.jpeg

spoilerAs Americans gather for Thanksgiving feasts, soldiers at Fort Carson, Colorado, are contending with a far less festive reality -- months of insufficient meals, confusing schedules, and limited food options at the base's dining facilities that have ignited widespread frustration among the rank and file.

Dining facilities -- critical for sustaining the health and readiness of troops -- are reportedly offering fewer options, with some meals falling short of basic nutritional standards. Earlier this month, the issue was exemplified by a meal in which soldiers were served a single piece of toast and a handful of lima beans for dinner, according to one soldier stationed there who shared imagery of the meal. Even getting access to those limited rations can be hard, given confusing dining hall schedules and seemingly random closures that make it difficult for many to access hot meals.

Military.com's interviews with eight soldiers and review of photos from Fort Carson facilities found recurring problems. Food runs out quickly, and portions often fall short of the macronutrient requirements needed to sustain soldiers' demanding physical regimens, likely running afoul of service regulations on feeding requirements for troops. Some soldiers reported and shared photos of food that was undercooked or stored at dangerous temperatures.

"This has been a division-wide issue with the [dining facilities] on workdays and kiosks on the weekend," said one soldier stationed at the base, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the press. "The people who deal with it the worst are the soldiers who live in the barracks and don't have a car."

The issue is twofold. Troops reported being served food that was either improperly prepared or unavailable by the time they reached the end of the line. Kiosks, intended to replace dining facilities in some circumstances with grab-and-go options, are frequently empty, particularly during peak times when soldiers finish their shifts.

When kiosk shelves are stocked, they're often filled with chips, sugary snacks and other items that soldiers say fall short of the nutritional standards required to maintain physical fitness as demanded by their jobs. Frustration over food issues has prompted some unit leaders to instruct troops to document the issue, capturing photos of the low-quality food or barren shelves to escalate concerns to higher-level leadership, though it's unclear what official complaints have been filed.

"We recognize that we've had some challenges with consistency in the quality of our soldiers' dining experiences at our warrior restaurants and kiosks," Lt. Col. Joseph Payton, a base spokesperson, said in a statement to Military.com. "We're committed to ensuring our soldiers receive quality and healthy meals and can take full advantage of their meal benefit they are entitled to receive."

Payton added that the issue has been brought to brigade-level leadership, which is investigating methods to boost the quality of food options for soldiers.

Fort Carson has 4,600 meal card holders, mostly junior enlisted soldiers who would normally rely on the dining facilities for meals. In most cases, barracks do not have cooking appliances, and soldiers are generally forbidden to have kitchen tools such as hot plates. Other food options, which soldiers would have to pay for, are mostly less healthy fast food restaurants such as Pizza Hut, Dunkin' Donuts and Arby's.

In 2024, the base served food to 591 soldiers on average each day, according to data provided by the service. That number also includes meals purchased and consumed by non-meal card holding troops -- meaning the raw percentage of junior soldiers living on base who use the dining facilities may be in the single digits some days.

Compounding the frustration is the financial strain hunting for alternative food options can cause for troops. Soldiers contribute an average of $460 per month from their Basic Allowance for Subsistence (BAS), a mandatory deduction that collectively totals approximately $22 million annually at Fort Carson. However, the base's food budget this year was just $5 million. How the remaining funds are allocated remains unclear. A 2022 report from the Government Accountability Office found that the Army does not adequately track how often its food services are used by service members.

Some Army officials have pointed to soldiers using dining facilities less and less in recent years as driving decisions to cut spending. It has produced something of a self-fulfilling prophecy, with less investment in quality food and infrastructure pushing even fewer soldiers to see those food options as viable -- despite automatically paying for that food out of their paychecks.

Soldiers have reported waiting in line for up to 30 minutes at Fort Carson dining facilities, only to be served small portions that fall far short of a full meal. In one instance, a soldier recounted being handed just a small bowl of soup and an apple.

On Hots & Cots, a Yelp-style platform where soldiers review barracks and dining options, complaints about food quality and availability at Fort Carson are significantly higher than at other installations, according to the app's internal data.

However, the issue is not isolated to Fort Carson. Last year, Military.com reported on similar struggles at Fort Cavazos, Texas -- in which junior enlisted soldiers had few options for food as the garrison struggled to juggle a severe shortage of food service workers. Soldiers also frequently report issues with undercooked food or inconsistent dining facility schedules on Reddit and other social media.

Senior officials have often pointed to difficult logistics in mapping out how much food to supply soldiers and getting them quality nutrition. However, it's unclear why those challenges have persisted in the force for years.

"Are we gonna fumble? Yes, but we're learning," Renee Mosher, deputy chief of staff, G4 HQ Army Materiel Command, which oversees logistics for the force, said when asked about food issues at Fort Carson in October at the Association of the United States Army (AUSA) conference in Washington, D.C.

Also, Fort Carson isn't some remote outpost. It's in Colorado Springs, a city of almost 500k people serviced by a major interstate, international airport, and air force base. The most powerful empire on earth can't feed its below minimum-wage soldiers on a base that's next to a Walmart and multiple food wholesalers, despite taking like a quarter of their monthly pay to do so. Big 1904 Russia Energy.

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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by propter_hog@hexbear.net to c/slop@hexbear.net

Was hilarious hearing him say, "This creates my favorite molecule in the whole of the lubrication world, which is, of course, diurea."

Link in case you're a big fat tribology nerd: https://youtube.com/watch?v=U5KnVWewMIU

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Wild how basically every time I click on the Libiverse button to see what a thread looks like with the lemmy.world and similar posters lemmitor in it it's sooooo uhhhh

If it's not outright reactionary stuff it's stuff like the attached image. I just don't even know what to say wowee

Idk if this is intentional behavior or the result of being massively out of touch but aaaa

Idk, if this person sees this post somehow and you rly didn't mean this in a transphobic way I rly don't wanna discourage you from trying to use more inclusive language. It's just that being so bad-"weird" (I wish I had a better word to describe this) about people's pronouns or gendered language has the same effect in the end of pushing trans people or women out of spaces as outright transphobia or misogyny :(

If someone you're speaking to on the internet doesn't have listed preferred pronouns, you should use the ungendered pronoun "they" or refer to them without using pronouns ("this person"), and only the latter one if completely necessary for some grammatical or contextual reason (people can perceive it as you not wanting to use their preferred pronouns, which is considered disrespectful if they think you know of them). It can get more complicated than that but like 95% of the time those are good guidelines and 99% of people are probably gonna be cool with you as long as it's obvious you're trying to be respectful. Idk, pronouns 101 but yeah, lol

I actually found the reply in the attached image (https://hexbear.net/comment/5418313) a couple of months ago but I was reminded of it by this:

There was this thread I posted in earlier about male friendships and how intimate men are with each other, it looked kinda empty from our end (cuz we're defedded with the worst of this internet hell-network called Lemmy) but I clicked on the Libiverse button (https://lemmy.ml/post/22904748) and I just see stuff like this inside:

Which is just.... WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU, IF SOMEONE SAID THAT TO ME, AT THE VERY LEAST I WOULD NEVER SPEAK TO THEM AGAIN AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO LITERALLY TORTURE ME TO GET ME TO MENTION IT IN A POSITIVE LIGHT

Yet this guy not only does that, but also makes sure that you know, in the context of that, he would definitely kill people "if anyone ever goes after" his friends visible-disgust

Moving on to more benign Redditor behavior:

I also don't have a word for this weird type of Redditor metaphor where they have some kind of criticism for your post but it's substanceless (who was attacking the straight men lmao, like I guess you could read it as an overgeneralization but it's not entirely wrong lol) and probably ultimately rooted in some kind of bigotry so it has to be veiled in some strange physically-based analogy

I have more slop for you but I hit the image rate limit and I'm impatient so now I switch to direct transcriptions :3

Andy@slrpnk.net, 7 updoots, 4 downdoots, 12 hrs ago

I think it’s interesting that you are comparing “men” and “girls” as opposed to either boys and girls or men and women.

No judgement. Just thought that was interesting.

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, just be direct about your language-nitpicking or shut the fuck up lmao, insufferable annoying ass Redditors

Lumidaub@feddit.org, 1 updoot, 3 hours ago I say this in the gentlest way possible: you keep writing “there” when you mean “they’re” or “their” and it’s making it hard to read your posts.

Surprisingly there's only like 6 grammar correction replies in that thread, pretty low for Reddit

There's more but you get the idea lol. Such an offputting place lol, solidarity to all our non-Redditor friends who persist in using the Reddit Lemmies despite the best efforts of the cishet white techbros there to push them away, you're welcome here on hexbear-retro anytime catgirl-heart

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in all fairness it's quite impressive, but the headline is just fucking hilarious... the people have been force-fed slop and spectacle for so long that they are now only capable of understanding things through the lens of Treats.

why don't we have a Baudrillard or simulation/simulacra emote

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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net to c/slop@hexbear.net

This is an old post, but I want to dunk on this idea because I've heard it in real life.

The common sense:

"...that barbarous and hellish power which hath stirred up Indians and Negroes to destroy us." — Thomas Paine, Common Sense

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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net to c/slop@hexbear.net

Bruh you're part of the DoD, who do you think paved the way for deregulated capitalism? You are half the reason this is happening lmao. This guy is a boomer too, so he has no excuse.

Ah yes, capitalists hate the fed, you know, the very mechanism that helped them murder and arrest everyone that tried to stop this very form of deregulated capitalism happening.

It's actually giving me a little hope to know that the ruling class has drunk their own cool aid to the point that they are doing the business thing of cutting corners and refusing to pay to train the next generation. That means when these geezers retire (and it seems the ruling class isn't doing much to keep them from retiring) they will take their expertise with them and the fed will be less competent at crushing leftist movements. In fact, not long ago I posted an excerpt from a NYT article lamenting that Trumps loud cartoon evil would inspire the rise of a more extreme left. I believe this is the ultimate reason as to why the Dem establishment hates Trump but seemingly loves compromising with the anti-Trump GoP.

Jesus, there's so many of them on this one forum. Granted, "fed" can mean a lot of things. But still, decent number of these commenters were doing engineering, aviation, etc, all important research that keeps the US war machine running.

Who could have seen this coming? It's a shame we have no examples in history of this happening in other countries to draw from, or know the exact agency that helped it happen.

fedpostinggorby-sad putin-wink

So now you get to experience what most workers have been experiencing for decades and you wonder why people weren't buying the Dems telling them things are great.

And people think the Dems are the left-wing party. Imagine kissing US fed boot.

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Are they just trolling us now?

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This is just the most obvious rentierism I've seen and this guy's defending it

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Slop.

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For posting all the anonymous reactionary bullshit that you can't post anywhere else.

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