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[-] Steve@communick.news 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Individual people choosing to "do the right thing" is never going to work. It doesn't matter if any individual chooses the right food, or kind of car, anything else.

Blameing people for not cutting their meat intake, is misplaced.

The government needs to change the market by subsidizing "good" things and taxing "bad" things. That's the only way to change behavior at scale.

[-] birthday_attack@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago

Ok but remember when Republicans made up that Biden was going to "outlaw burgers" with the Green New Deal? And how even the made up idea that the govt would stop subsidizing meat caused half the nation to flip their shit, while the other half went "no don't be silly, we would never ever touch your precious tendies."

Appealing to individuals is important because without shifting the public's perception of meat as it relates to climate change, the government will be too terrified to enact those kind of changes for fear of getting voted out by the angry, barbecue-loving mobs.

Until flexitarians, vegetarians, and vegans (I'm vegan btw, just need everyone to know that) become a sizable enough percentage of the voting population, these systemic changes are never going to even be considered by our leaders. So we should keep pressing the importance of these changes to collectively move ourselves closer to that tipping point.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The government needs to change the market by subsidizing “good” things and taxing “bad” things.

Or at least start by ceasing to fucking subsidize the bad things!

[-] Steve@communick.news 3 points 9 months ago

That would be a good first step they could try.

[-] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Capitalism is so funny like that. Everything has a price to everyone, you need to find a threshold (tax %) to tip the scale.

You're completely right because right now in UK meat has FAR MORE subsidies than vegetables and meat alternatives.

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