255
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 29 Mar 2024
255 points (94.1% liked)
World News
38965 readers
2223 users here now
A community for discussing events around the World
Rules:
-
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
-
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
-
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
-
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
-
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
-
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
-
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
-
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
Lemmy World Partners
News !news@lemmy.world
Politics !politics@lemmy.world
World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world
Recommendations
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
- Consider including the article’s mediabiasfactcheck.com/ link
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
I think Jesus probably did exist, and he was probably a very successful cult leader who may have taken a lot of hallucinogens.
Well it's sort of like Mohammed - I'm sure that a person with that name DID exist around that time at some point. And maybe they were a teacher and a self-proclaimed "speaker for god." But so was Charles Manson and David Koresh and Jim Jones and Joseph Smith and many other horrible cult leaders.
There never has been any "god" in the way we mean it, so there could never actually be such a thing as the son of God, nor any need for one. If we were smart as a species, we'd see why it's more important to support human beings than go around believing in religious nut jobbery.
Mohammed is not fully comparable. His life was on the outskirts of most of civilization meaning we should expect bad record keeping. Jesus was right in Jerusalem a major city in a major empire that documented stuff. We should expect that they would have records and that the records would have preserved since Christians controlled said records. Exactly what we do see. We have an abundance of records about the man from 2 centuries later. Nearly all Empire writings are missing from that time and yet Jesus is found repeatedly. If there were a letter talking about him or a court record or a particular landmark, and this guy really existed, we should have it. Which we don't.
Where is the Kaaba of Jesus? Where is the tomb he was in? Where was he executed exactly? Where are all the relics of what he touched? History can't say anymore than history can tell you the first time Batman threw a Batarang.
Now it is possible a man named Jesus son of Joseph existed in those years in that area. Just like it is possible someone named Bruce Wayne existed in NYC in 1939. That doesn't mean this possible person was the minimum historical Jesus. That would still have to be demonstrated.
I don't think he existed and there just isn't evidence that the mushroom thing was going on in that time and place. No traces of it have been found and no writings or art mentions it.