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[Dormant] Electric Vehicles
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It isn't just about price or being an EV or the Leaf would be the best selling car in the world. People also want a car that isn't a piece of junk with low resale value, is cramped, or has bad styling. These are big purchases and a lot more thought goes into buying them than two simple checkboxes.
You can't have inexpensive and all the features you're asking for though. It's just not realistic.
I don't want all the features I just want an EV with 300 miles of range, liquid cooling, and 20 minute charging.. Automakers can shove their fancy computerized BS
The cheapest lease in America of any car, not just EVs, is a Hyundai Ioniq 6, with 300+ miles of range. And 20 min dc charging. I have one and it sure doesn't feel like a cheaply made car.
Hyundai has the electric kona that fits that description for the most part.
Only $38k with outdated batteries that require charge limiting I'm looking for under $25k
Good luck! I think you're asking too much TBH.
Were getting ass reamed by legacy auto.. China has cars that meet this requirement but we have regressive tariffs on them. Free market my ass.
I feel the same way about feature bloat on pickup trucks. I don't need a tailgate that opens and closes itself, but it's a mandatory add-on if you want to buy the extended battery for any F-150 lightning. Trucks are meant for work, not loading them up with luxury bullshit.
Trucks are meant for work
When I see the size of them and the pristine condition they are in, I seriously doubt it's the case for most pick up owners.
Tell me about it. It's ruined the truck market for those of us that need/want one for work/light duty.
Same.
Plus these guys are kinda all assholes that seem to compensate for something? Man, if I had a nickel for every time one of those tailgates me...
I have an opel and a merc and I prefer the opel. It has all the same features for less than half the price. It isnt impossible.
That's awesome. So there are in fact low cost options then.
This is mostly true but I think a lot of the added cost is manufacturers pushing out vehicles with the maximum amount of markup possible in order to recoup their costs in developing EVs as fast as possible (along with COVID era proce gouging). I'm sure in a decade or two they'll be dirt cheap comparatively, not that helps anyone now.
But isn't this true with any "new" technology? The beginning of the timeline has high cost and as the product becomes "normal" costs come down?
Pretty much. I distinctly remember when plasma TVs first came out and seeing an advertisement in a magazine for them, 55" for $15,000. Now you can buy one (LCD) for a few hundred bucks.
Right. I doubt we see the exact same behavior with cars, especially in today's world where all cars are more expensive than they were just 4 or so years ago. That said, I do expect EV prices to come down. I can hate on auto makers for being slow to the game all I want, but the reality is they won't do it if they don't think they can turn a profit. It seems like it's coming just a lot slower than some would like.
Yeah, how else will they afford a third yacht?