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Polly wants a deliverable
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A good project manager can make all the difference. I've worked with shitty ones and great ones. Great ones are on top of the project, fielding questions and wrangling together key players. Shit ones don't do any of that then get surprised on their own call when they are behind schedule.
The more I learn about project managers the more I realize I am a project manager in a factory. Just a criminally underpaid project manager...
We don't have titles here because god forbid anyone discover what their value actually is.
Then you ask a PM for specs before you start, or at least a brief with what needs to be done, and maybe a rough planning based on estimates and not what the customer said what are the deadlines, and they get really offended.
what does "get surprised on their own call" mean?
They are usually responsible for planning, generating, and running regular project team meetings. So they get people together but sometimes have done no work since the last meeting they held, so when someone has a reasonable issue that doesn't meet with the pre done schedule 5 years ago when the project was first instigated, they have super Pikachu face and get mad at the actual doers because they don't get to just report "on schedule" to their bosses. They could be called the landlords ofthe project based on the sentiment of the greater Lemmy community.