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I’m not even American, so it doesn’t affect me directly, but I am scared to death of a Trump presidency.

I am one of those people here who think that Biden is a far more competent executor of imperialist policies compared to Trump, but what I am even more afraid of is the early death of nascent left wing movements in America.

I am reminded of how the KPD getting its leaders murdered by Freikorps thugs during the Spartacist uprising (mind you, a much stronger party than any leftist movement in America today), and how its continued suppression paved the way to Nazi Germany.

Project 2025 will effectively embolden fascist thugs in America to do the same to the left wing movements, many of which are still in their cradle, and the death of leftist movements in their infancies will inevitably pave the way to a fascist America and undo many of the progress that had been made over decades.

The world cannot afford a fascist America. Imagine Hitler with nukes. The world will have to pay a much, much larger price as a result.

On this reasoning alone, I believe that Trump needs to be stopped at all cost. But many here have disagreed with me, and I need you to persuade me why I shouldn’t be afraid of Project 2025 at all. Even if the chance of that happening is 10%, I’m still not ready to gamble with it.

(I’m not saying we have to support Biden, I believe it is somewhat inevitable, I’m saying that we have to buy ourselves as much time as possible, even if it means strategic voting, to build a resilient leftist movement while delaying the inevitable for as long as we can.)

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[-] half_giraffe@hexbear.net 23 points 8 months ago

Lol was this before or after he crushed the rail workers strike? Pretty funny that the most "left" thing you can attribute to Biden is performative bullshit while he has actively worked on behalf of capital to limit workers' actions. What level of "left" does that make him?

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 16 points 8 months ago

Right before. And libs excused it by saying "but they got their demands!!" as if the point of labor organizing is to get some benefits and a wage hike ONCE then have it be illegal for the rest of time.

[-] ziggurter@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago

And they didn't get their demands, either. They got some shitty, watered down, pathetic version of their demands that the Biden administration and the boss-friendly union "leadership" told them they should be happy with.

[-] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

"The workers must ~~emancipate themselves~~ beg for table scraps from the government"

  • Karl Marx
[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

"But 4 months later they got 90% of their demands"

Damn seems like a huge fucking waste of 4 months considering it was going to happen anyway, oh and look that 10% was all the health and safety stiff they went on strike for in the first place.

[-] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago

Did those goalposts come with the wheels already on or are they an aftermarket modification?

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 21 points 8 months ago

Go back to reddit you smug piece of shit liberal. That isn't even what "moving the goalposts" is you stupid fuck.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago

Did you also call it moving the goalposts when feminist groups said "Not like that!" as your psychotic politicians used their rhetoric to justify imperialist wars?

Because that's all Genocide Joe is doing, but with labor organizing instead of feminism.

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 16 points 8 months ago

Shut the fuck up about goalposts you debate pervert, this isn't a fucking game to us

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