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submitted 3 months ago by kescusay@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

The Supreme Court is currently hearing arguments on Trump's claim of "absolute immunity." Several news organizations are carrying the arguments live (including the linked article). You can also listen on several YouTube channels, including:

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[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago

So far, every Justice who's spoken has sounded extremely skeptical, even Thomas.

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago

And just so people know, Trump's lawyer is now on record as supporting the idea that the president can order the military to perform a coup and be immune from prosecution.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 21 points 3 months ago

Effectively yes, he did say that staging a coup could be considered official duties of a president and possibly legal. The nuance of his argument is even worse.

He claims that the lresident is immune from any prosecution unless impeached and removed from office first. So a coup is legal if he is never impeached, including if he is removed from office due to a failed coup either by the transfer of office or resigning. This would of course provide immunity for someone who was leaving office and time was not available to be removed, say for shenanigans in Janurary.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

It also says that the President is immune from anything at all as long as 34 Senators agree to take his side.

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Which means he could have senators threatened or murdered, and if he lowers the numbers of senators enough to prevent his conviction, he walks free.

[-] youngGoku@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Hmm sounds a lot like how folks get unalived in Russia.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

And his followers cheer.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Right, and the Court could easily release a ruling on the very last possible day in June that gives guidance to lower courts saying exactly that, in such a manner that the rulings on those lower courts are still appealable, and Poof! The Supreme Court hands Trump a resounding loss, in such a manner that delays all of his trials to past Election Day.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago

That's good, but don't forget that the whole point of this trial was to delay, delay, delay. Even if they lose, they already won.

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