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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by Vitaly@feddit.uk to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

Even from people that never lived in a communist state

edit: im 17 and i hate communism

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[-] applepie@kbin.social 5 points 7 months ago

The issue that every "communist" when pushed will take position on atrocities committed by various communists regimes... they gonna do that thing that "fascists" do: "well he really did not do it but if he did, they clearly deserved it"

Tell that to east Asians or Europeans to their face... everyone is deff hard online tho.

[-] Hegar@kbin.social 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I find that liberals are much more dismissive of US atrocities. Most communists I speak to know a wealth of details about the failings of mao and stalin.

Ask a US conservative about our 20th and 21st century atrocities - torture, massacres, coups, support for genocidal regimes and ecocidal companies, etc. - and they'll proudly defend our brutality. Ask a liberal and they'll hedge, deny and justify like an internet tankie who's never opened a history book.

[-] applepie@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago

Boomers are deff in denial but younger gen seems less likely to straight up deny it. It would be coached as "lesser of two evils" lol

Social media has a lot of bad faith actors who polarize every discussion so top comments will generally be extreme with an inflammatory shit show under.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

That hasn't been my experience at all. Sure, there are nationalists who will defend their own favorite Communist^(TM) Regime, but an ideological believer in communism is just that.

[-] geissi@feddit.de 2 points 7 months ago

every “communist” when pushed will take position on atrocities committed by various communists regimes… they gonna do that thing that “fascists” do: “well he really did not do it but if he did, they clearly deserved it”

I have never encountered that argument. Is that something Tankies say?
What I have seen is the often mocked argument, that these regimes were not communist in the first place.
Actual communism has never existed and probably never will.
There are however plenty of communists that will openly denounce stalinism. That is the entire premise of Animal Farm, btw.

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