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[-] red@sopuli.xyz 70 points 7 months ago

50% nic lmao. Fake as hell.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 63 points 7 months ago

OP probably means 50mg which is standard high concentration nic salts (freebase is most commonly 3mg). People often mistake mg for percentage in vaping.

[-] papalonian@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

But they claimed to have used dilution formulas to achieve these percentages. Pretty sure it's BS.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I'm not going to argue that greentext is ever real but mixing vape juice and diluting is very common. I vape 3mg freebase 1:2 with nic-free for 1mg juice which has a very tiny nic kick. You can even mix flavors like Cola + Apple or cherry is just delicious :P

[-] papalonian@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I know you can, I do the same haha. What I'm saying is, they couldn't have both accidentally read the 50mg as 50% while simultaneously claiming to have calculated exactly how much would be needed to dilute it to 49%, because diluting it to 49mg and 49% would be two different calculations and it's unlikely they'd make that mistake after doing the calculations.

[-] rhandyrhoads@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I see what you're saying, but for the sake of this end goal the difference between diluting by 1% (to 49.5 mg) vs 1 mg isn't too big of a deal odds are they did it by percent of original nicotine, but the idea behind a taper stays pretty much the same.

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago

Math time.

Let's say it's 50mg/30ml. To get to 49mg/30ml you need 49/50 of the original bottle or 29.4ml of the original concentration with the last bit being 0 nic.

Now our hypothetical 50% nic bottle has 15ml nicotine. 49% would be 14.7ml. Now our original mix is 50%, so we have to add twice as much as that 14.7ml to get to 49%. 14.7ร—2= ... 29.4ml.

The cool thing about dimensional analysis is that once you cancel out your dimensions the math takes care of itself, same as if you're using percentages. Anon may not know much about vape juice, but his math is on point.

[-] papalonian@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I'm not trying to be rude here, but the math is not my problem, I understand dimensional analysis.

After doing that calculation, is it likely that you are going to mistake the term "percent" and "mg", or after doing something so specific with units are you more likely to use the right one?

I'm saying that if OP actually did any of this (you say their math is on point but they didn't do any haha) they'd probably be using the correct term rather than the incorrect yet common "street" term

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

The point of my math is that it doesn't matter if it's mg or percent. Assuming the bottles remain consistent, the difference for each step will be the same volume.

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 48 points 7 months ago

everyone i know calls 50mg "50%"

everyone.

[-] red@sopuli.xyz 33 points 7 months ago

I've vaped since 2013 and have literally never heard of this. Could be regional ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™‚๏ธ

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 20 points 7 months ago

probably is. personally never heard anything other than percentages

[-] red@sopuli.xyz 9 points 7 months ago

50mg is also a metric fucton of nic in a vape. My strong mixes are 13mg, and low nic is 4mg.

[-] spaceguy5234@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

My wife uses 50mg saltnic, it's crazy. I tried hitting it once and dear god my head was spinning.

[-] red@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago

When vapes came out and the devices were shitty and produced low amounts of vapor, the highest I saw was 30mg and 24mg, and the "marlboro red" equivalent was 18mg.

[-] drathvedro@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Around these places, if anyone asks for "50% nic liquid", they'd be promptly kicked out of the store. Chances are, that'd be kids that don't know pure nicotine is ~1010mg/mL, or they do know and are asking for something highly illegal.

Are you sure you're not confusing it with PG/VG composition?

[-] red@sopuli.xyz 1 points 7 months ago

I'll chime in and say that 20mg is the highest legally sold concentration where I live. Mine is a small country though. I know Germany and Canada have the same max.

[-] drathvedro@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Around here up until recently there were freebase liquids up to 24 and salts up to 65. You could even get your hands on 100mg freebase concentrate if you're a shop owner or eliquid producer. But just a couple months earlier a law passed that limits all to 20 and puts extortionate taxes on all liquids no matter the concentration. Two of the biggest franchises straight up closed their entire businesses the moment it went through. The rest posted own obituaries on their sites about how fucked they are and how they are basically hanging by the thread now. But I think they've overreacted. Sure, the prices would go up at least 7 times, but in neighboring countries the limits are as low as 3mg if not outright banned, but business is still going. I myself just bought out the entire shelf from one of smaller stores that sold old stock from under the counter. Should last me until winter, but I think I'll have to move to some better place by then.

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