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submitted 3 months ago by CAVOK@lemmy.world to c/europe@feddit.de

A 29-year-old police officer died on Sunday after being repeatedly stabbed during an attack at an anti-Islam rally in Germany.

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[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com 68 points 3 months ago

This fails to mention the terrorist was a muslim.

[-] CAVOK@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago

It also fails to mention that the organising group is far right. So maybe it evens out?

[-] ByroTriz@lemmy.ml 40 points 3 months ago

I mean, the officer was not killed by a protestor. If you read the title it seems that it was the group's fault

[-] CAVOK@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Not to take any blame away from the terrorist, but this is what the organisers hope for.

And Putin is jumping with joy. Anything that divide us is good for him. Wouldn't surprise me if Russia funded the organisers.

[-] WbrJr@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago

The german right wing Party AFD have or at least had connections and i think some payment with russia. Some oft thr AFD folks even got asked to come to russia as "democratic experts" for the last election.. Such a fucked up party

[-] CAVOK@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

And people still vote for them. Infuriating.

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com -5 points 3 months ago

Sounds like victim blaming to me. You should be able to protest without worrying about a terrorist attack.

[-] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 7 points 3 months ago

Not if it's Nazis doing the protesting.

[-] Duxon@feddit.de 7 points 3 months ago
[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 26 points 3 months ago

They mentioned a possible Islamist motive. Which is an important distinction to make because the Westboro Baptist Church doing something is not the same as some random Christian doing something.

Also, you're reading France24. Sticking with state media, but this time German, DW has more:

Investigators earlier said the suspect was an Afghan citizen who had been resident in Germany for around a decade. He had no criminal record and had not come to law enforcement's attention in the past, they said.

The suspect was eventually shot by police. As of Saturday evening, he was alive but in the hospital and in no fit state to be interrogated, according to investigators. As a result, they said, his motives and the reason for his attack required further investigation.

[-] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 15 points 3 months ago

I know he was a Muslim because otherwise he would have been called "mentally ill" rather than a terrorist.

[-] mal3oon@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

At least they made sure to highlight the rally is anti-muslim. It's just funny following the reporting on the incident so far, as everyone saw the video, how obvious is the bias and tiptoeing around the fact that this was a religiously motivated attack against "anti-islam" activists. But due to the mental gymnastic that does not fit the narrative of doctors and engineers migrants.

[-] footoro@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The people the guy attacked were Nazis. They are not anti-Islam activists, they are Nazis. This is not an anti-Muslim rally, this is a Nazi rally.

Violence is always wrong, and so is your dogwhistling.

[-] mal3oon@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago

The people the guy attacked were Nazis. The are not anti-Islam activists, they are Nazis. This is not an anti-Muslim rally, this is a Nazi rally.

Shtop right there, do you have a loicense for that gigantic hyperbolic lie sir? Like serious define your view of "Nazism" for me, if I want to stretch beyond a national movement, I would say probably islamophobic or xenophobic, but then again that says nothing much, but you know what, islamophibia would have saved that cop's life in retrospect.
Because they are literally anti-Nazis. Funnily enough, they see Islam as Nazism due to Sharia being close to a lot of tenant of Islam (superiority, discrimination, etc ...), and their activity was mainly protesting anti-jihad islamization. So how is this bad again? Explain this to an ex-muslim please. Luckily there are videos showing clearly what happened so even if you want to still live in denial at least no one will believe your delusional take hopefully, and equating killing someone and stabbing with dogwhisling is absolutely nuts. I would prefer to be dogwhistled any day over getting stabbed.

[-] footoro@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago

I only see a lot of mental gymnastics to make it sound like Michael Stürzenberger would be somehow a good guy? He is a convicted extremist e.g. for incitement to hatred, who was under surveillance for plotting to overthrow democracy for many many years. He held up pictures of Goebbels among other things.

[-] mal3oon@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago

The way you phrase it is so biased to make the guy look like he's the worst evil person ever. So I looked him up, and here is what I gathered:

  • He staunch anti-islam (kudos from me, as ex-muslim, he 100% onto something).
  • His activism centered around exactly this cause and has been attacked many times by Muslims, funny enough your people care more about "words" but actual violence? That's fine as long as it's against "hate". The funny thing is that these incidents targeted against him, makes his case even stronger: Islam is a violent religion that does not tolerate any criticism and is incompatible the open German/western society, that thrives on improvement.

So the guy's experience, and especially the recent incident, just confirm what he's preaching, Islam preaches violence against those who criticise it, and is incompatible with western culture and if it grows would present a threat to Germany. Christianity is the largest religion in Germany, yet, you rarely ever hear about violent attacks against its critics. There sure must be a reason, no? And before you jump on the "muh racism bandwagon", skin color has nothing to do with it. It's its religious culture of death, because in Islam, it's an honor to die fighting the kuffar for your Allah, so you can get a better placement in heaven and of course those 72 houris. Germany failed at assimilating lots of refugees that came in the last 10 years, and it's effects are showing.

He held up pictures of Goebbels among other things.

Below his wikipedia:

In May 2013, Stürzenberger was acquitted for the charge of having shown a poster with an image and quote of Heinrich Himmler at a demonstration to prove the similarity between Nazism and Islam.[31] He was sentenced to a fine of 800 euros in July 2013 for insulting a police officer by telling him to "Ach, leck mich doch am Arsch",[32] and to 2,500 euros in 2014 for calling Islam a "cancer" on the Politically Incorrect blog, for which he was acquitted in 2017.[33] He was sentenced to a four months conditional prison sentence and 960 euros in 2015 for saying that all Muslims are potential terrorists at a Pegida rally,[34] and to a suspended sentence of half a year in prison in November 2017 for sharing a photo on Facebook of a ranking Nazi shaking hands with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Amin al-Husseini.[35] In December 2017 he was sentenced to a fine of 2,400 euros for incitement to hatred, after he spoke of an "invasion" from the Islamic world at a Pegida event in 2015.[36]

[-] olafurp@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago

I think the word "terrorist" is not a good word here. It was a mentally ill individual with an unknown motive.

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com 4 points 3 months ago

Id argue that almost every terrorist is mentally ill.

He was a muslim who attacked an anti-islamic rally. Seems like a pretty clear motive to me.

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