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Signal’s founder warns Ukrainians about using Telegram. Here’s why (www.fastcompany.com)

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[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

[...] the most secure messaging app in the world, Signal.

That's a very bold claim the author of the article makes.

[-] doodledup@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm not aware of any messenger that is more secure. In fact, almost every other encrypted messenger uses the same algorithm.

It might not by the most anonymous messenger (as there is Session and Threema for example that don't require a phone number) but it's probably the most secure.

[-] Hawke@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Signal no longer requires a phone number either.

[-] doodledup@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

It does. You can share your username with others. But for registering it still requires one and your account is still linked to one.

[-] Hawke@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Well, that’s true but it barely affects anonymity.

All that can be determined from that is that the number in question has a signal account, and how recently the account has checked for messages. It doesn’t tie messages or contacts to the number. (Any more)

[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Well even then it's not the most secure but one of the most secure, no?

[-] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 1 points 6 months ago

Here is where I gave up reading lol

[-] missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 6 months ago

WhatsApp does use that same Signal protocol for its messages but that's very poor writing considering all the tracked metadata arguably makes it just as insecure as Telegram.

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 months ago

Ownership by Facebook renders WhatsApp inherently untrustworthy.

[-] Dayroom7485@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

I might be missing the point, but isn’t this a decently dumbed-down description of the difference between services that are end-to-end encrypted and those that are not?