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Why White Feelings Trump Historical Context?
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this post was submitted on 17 Jun 2024
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I feel like you think you've made a point, but I'll be damned if I can figure out what it is.
My understanding is that there are people who believe that the very image of the Confederate flag is exclusively racist (represents White segregationists), however it's technically not. Unless people are willing to go to the extreme of calling Black people, "self hating Blacks".
Do you realize that flag isn't the flag of The Confederacy? It's a battle flag they flew, but it isn't the flag they flew in Richmond, VA.
That flag gained prominence because Woodrow "I'm going to straight up lie about history" Wilson decided to write Southern Revisionism. He's also the one that erected the statues starting in 1912.
That flag and those statues were explicitly supposed to be forgotten, and never erected according to the actual people that attempted secession.
That flag is a symbol of racism and history denial. There is no other way to look at it, if you know what actually happened.
Oh yeah, Wilson also helped commission Birth of a Nation. Go watch that racist movie if you want to see the "family values and heritage" that Wilson supported.
Was it even a battle flag? I thought the battle flag it was based on was square and the “modern” one was created after the confederacy?
There were several. It was a flag they flew in many, but not all of the battles towards the end of the traitor's rebellion
It does represent racist slavery and segregation.
Some black folks are trying to repurpose it, and I think that's doomed to failure.
A tiny number of exceptions don't change the fact that it has been a symbol of white supremacy since it's inception, and I'm pretty sure you understand that based on your racist and homophobic comments.
The modern world is pushing the bigots out, and it terrifies you.
Good.
Just to be clear here, I'm not racist. That is, I don't look at someone's skin color, nationality, nor ethnicity and automatically make assumptions of them (unless you're lumping Zionists with Jews, which you'd be wrong in either case). Unlike those who are quick to use racial and gender slurs toward people who disagree with their views. For example what you did with me.
Cry harder.
The modlogs are public, it's not a secret what you are: a reactionary who is scared of progress; afraid of losing control of the people you deem to be beneath you.
Boo fuckin' hoo.
I know the mod logs are... but I'm not racist. If hating a political ideology makes me a bigot, lol okay fine by me. If pulling up statistics about a group makes me a bigot, once again, fine by me.. kill the messenger but the fact still remains.
Pssst... words don't make me cry. Sticks and stones... something you were never taught, it seems.
Cry harder.
You're the saltiest reactionary since sodium and chlorine were first added to water.
You keep telling me to cry harder but you're the one still making personal attacks and lol.. assumptions about who or what I am. Seems to me you're hurt because I wasn't shaped and molded the same way you were.
Lol! I love when reactionaries assume everyone else hates freedom as much as they do.
You're adorable.
Cry harder.
Seems weird to die on this hill because a handful of black folks might be flying it for clearly different reasons than the white folks who claim "muh heritage" but you do you. I've got underwear that has lasted longer than the confederacy did, and as pointed out by OP, the Nazis lasted longer and did more, but no one tries to pass off flying their flag as heritage.
Edit - also stealing this quote from ZombiePirate:
-Alexander Stephens, vice president of the Confederate States of America
There's only one "heritage" associated with the confederacy by anyone not in denial, and that's it.
Do you also have a list of good reasons why it should be OK for you to say the N word in different contexts?
Hm... check this out: https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/photos-they-black-and-they-proud-the-confederate-flag/by06A6ywMrqi7mYP9A1jmO/
Appears to be heritage. Part of their history.
Just to be clear, I'm not "for or against" the Confederate flag. My ancestors came to the U.S. way after the civil war. Like mid 1900s..
I just wanted to point out that the Confederate flag is not exclusive to White segregationists... that there's Black men and women who also value that flag.
That's it, nothing else.
Pointing out a vanishingly small exception isn't really doing anything except being contrarian.
I'm just trying to show the whole picture. Not the 4:3 but the 16:9.
Homie, you've added a single pixel to a 4k image.
Ohh... I like that. Take my upvote.
OK.