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[-] BombOmOm@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do you have to get permission from the government to exercise free speech outside your home? Can you be denied your right to remain silent based on what state you live in? What other right can simply be denied to adults?

Treating the 2nd Amendment like a first-class right is hardly 'expanding' it.

[-] Royal_Bitch_Pudding@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Iirc there was already some cases that decided that the government does have to right to decide what types of weapons you can own.

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

And what kind of speech you can say. For example, hate speech, incitements to violence, and of course yelling "fire" in a crowded theater.

[-] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

yelling “fire” in a crowded theater

Is part of an overturned court case. And even before it was overturned, the limit wasn't that you couldn't yell 'fire', the limit was you couldn't create harm via your actions. (Ex, if there was a fire, you did nothing illegal by saving others).

To circle this back to the 2nd Amendment. One can own and carry a gun, one can even save others with their firearm, one cannot murder people.

Hate speech is legal and incitement to violence has to be imminently dangerous. AFAIK all limitations of speech have to do with immediate public safety

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one -4 points 1 year ago

And numerous forms of protest too. Anything that gains traction is then declared a "riot" or "illegal assembly" and dealt with harshly.

None of these 2A supporters seem to care that you need a permit to protest or register to vote, but ask for people to get even the most basic of training before purchasing an object specifically designed to kill people and suddenly its "but muh rights!"

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