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[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

This sounds like progress to me though. Each side is slowly coming around the the reality that they can’t dictate the terms to the other side

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Israel can dictate the terms, though. They can just say what they want, and keep killing whether or not Hamas agrees.

I won’t say Hamas is a good partner for peace because they are not. (And, in fact, their violence and corruption is part of why Likud supports them above other much better Palestinian leadership.) But Israel is the issue. No one who is bombing, starving, and displacing millions of people who just want to live and be able to stop suffering can simultaneously complain that their victims aren’t being reasonable enough in the peace process.

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 1 month ago

Did you just both sides genocide?

[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I don't see OP mentioning genocide.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Did you just falsely equate Hamas and Palestine?

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 1 month ago

Hamas is the acting representative of Gaza.

Now why do you think it’s good that victims of genocide, who’s demands are “stop killing us”, are realising they can’t get that?

[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

What OP said is that neither side can dictate the other.

Israel wants Palestine and Gaza wiped out entirely. Genocide by a bunch of imperialist asshole who believe being Jewish shields them from criticisms of fascist behaviour.

Hamas wants to kill all Jews in the world. They've mentioned that at least 3 times in their 25 articles about why they're doing what they're doing.

The sooner either side realises they're not going to get what they want the better. However, I don't think that'll happen, because Israel is winning and being supplied with all the shiny toys from the US, and the whole world is just letting them do this.

[-] Zeratul@lemmus.org 1 points 1 month ago

Thank you for your sanity.

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