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‘As Long As I Gave It My All’...
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Look I'm from Missouri, I will vote for a dead guy again if I have to. Because the other choice is fascism.
Was it a facist play when the DNC propped up Biden and forced in Kamala even though the base was behind Bernie and Kamala was so bad the she was forced to drop out early in the primaries? How come no one talks about that being facist?
If the dead guy is going to lose and you can pick a live candidate thst supports your platform that will win, will you still run the dead guy and lose?
I'm still willing to hear a viable candidate and how that would work less than half a year before an election. In order for us to have another nominee we have to do something to get someone else to put their name on a ticket. That actions might create a bit of a loophole where any party could run a lame duck candidate in the primary, won, and go on to basically pull that candidate for "cognitive decline".
What I believe will happen, based on our laws and our history, is w.ell have another Al Gore moment where the vote gets split and we get a Republican as a result. And since right now the Republican is Donald "I touch 13 year Olds" Trump, I'm gonna ask you why a sane person would choose to let Trump become president.
Normal countries don't have elections that last over half a year. It's clearly workable everywhere else, and it's not like the people already voting Biden are going to not vote for whoever the Dem candidate is.
I don't buy that it would cause confusion or somehow be less viable to change candidates; this isn't 1880, we have phones and TVs and the internet now. If the candidate changed as little as a month before the election everyone would still know what was going on, even if was a huge pain in the ass to account for in terms of ballots.
"Normal countries don't have"I'm gonna stop you right there. Because what I am asking is how it works for this election at this time with our constitution, laws, and regulations. Because that is what is pertinent now in the event that he steps down.
As for the bit about them voting for any democrat on the ticket (we know historically that's not what happens), this is literally what happened with Hilary Clinton. It caused so few people who otherwise might have voted not to vote that we got Donald Trump as president for a first term. It's not about confusion. It's about people being disheartened enough to think it doesn't matter. And believing in the super majority of democrats who will vote so they don't have to. Because not voting is a form of protest.
People would still know. But the whole reason the media is playing up the age and health of the president currently is to convince people not to vote. And it's working. There are people in this country who voted for Trump in protest because Bernie Sanders was not ok the ticket.
The convention hasn’t even happened! Biden isn’t even officially the candidate yet!
I’m sorry but who the fuck is going to not vote or vote for Trump because Biden isn’t the candidate? Nobody loves the dude.
I'm starting to think the answer is "every centrist on lemmy."
Why ask him to step down if they can choose someone else. He is the official candidate as voted for in the primary. The primary is over. And if you're gonna stick your head in the sand and believe that people are going to just vote for whoever they happen to put up as a democrat I'm gonna need you to look back on the 2016 election like I said because we already know this has happened before. If you think it can't happen again you're part of the problem.
Cool, he’s still not the official candidate because he hasn’t been selected at the convention yet. If you’re going to lecture someone for not knowing how the system works you should at least understand that the primaries don’t actually select the candidate, the convention does.
“We have to run a weak candidate that polls like shit because the last time we did this exact same thing we lost but it’ll work this time” is the real head in the sand stance.
If you're smart enough to recognize this technicality, you're smart enough to see that history says not picking him after the primary already has been declared and no other candidates have been campaigning for the democratic party in this lead up is a bad idea. I'm done here.