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[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nope. That’s not how it works. If you are purposefully going to withhold your vote in your own country because think you’re going to make some grassroots change to acts committed by another country- in another country.

then YOU are going to get you killed.

YOU have the ability to stop that shit. YOU can vote. Votes matter. And if your own safety and well being is worth the risk to make some stupid point-

Then you don’t get to put that on someone else. It’s FAR too late in the game to pretend you don’t know what’s at stake.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

"Committed by another country" is horseshit, its committed by the US's unsinkable aircraft carrier with US bombs and US naval defense from its neighbors and US defense in the UN and would be impossible without the unlimited backing of the US government. This is our fault, 100%, I don't get to wash my hands of it just because it's being done on the other side of the world by a US proxy.

If my vote matters then I have a duty to use it to stop genocide, and this is the only way I can do it. Both the candidates support genocide, if either of them win then the genocide will only get worse. I see Biden being on death's door is a leverage point and so I am going to use it to increase the pressure, because if he gets replaced at the convention then we get a third choice!

They may still support Israel, but Biden has been a staunch Zionist his entire time in office. He's loyal to the bone. I actually don't know if they could find someone who is as loyal to Israel and Israel's interests as Joe Biden. If he gets replaced it might end.

And I get to blame you for throwing your support behind genocide instead of joining the push to replace Biden.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -4 points 1 week ago

That’s some mighty fine propaganda you’ve got there. However, I’m going to guess that you didn’t even know where Palestine was from n a map prior to very recently. Like… within the past year.

Nor did you know that we’ve been supplying them weapons for decades. Or that they’ve been at war since the 40’s. Or that congress will send them weapons with or without the president’s approval.

Manufactured outrage is such an easy weapon to use against those that don’t think for themselves. Or even bother to try and understand the nuance to any given situation.

Let me help you to understand a bit of how all this works:

NOTHING is black and white that exists within the boundaries of reality. Especially with politics. And it’s VERY clear that you don’t understand how most of it works. So maybe try and look into what’s involved within the nuance. Start with this.

Because that Is just scratching the surface of the shit you are either not able to understand, or refusing to even try to.

Hope this helps.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

I've hated Israel since they crushed Rachel Corrie with a fucking bulldozer in 2003, don't you fucking accuse me of not being aware of this genocidal settler-colonial state until recently. You accuse me of spreading propaganda and then post a fucking article that says the US is helpless and is legally forced to keep selling Israel weapons without limits forever. "Aw shucks, there's nothing Biden can do, he has to keep giving them billions of dollars of bombs to decapitate children in concentration camps!"

Let me help you understand how all this works.

The US can pull out of any agreement it wants. See: the Iran nuclear deal. This horseshit about the US being legally required to support Israel is mystification, the US can basically just do whatever it wants. This doesn't even get into the new Supreme Court decision, which basically just gave the President unlimited executive powers to execute the office's official duties.

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