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Reminds me that the whole concept of generations is something manufactured of whole cloth and meant to divide us, but more than that, that real people are compassionate and understanding. All that stuff is just fake.

It gives me hope for unity.

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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 64 points 1 month ago

whole concept of generations is something manufactured of whole cloth

huh? generational metrics are key for all kinds of analysis and are rooted in the fact that the cadence we call human reproduction is generational.

you want to call out those that throw a fancy name on one and market it for monetary gain? go for it... but that doesnt make the quantification behind it 'fake'.

[-] anzo@programming.dev 15 points 1 month ago

I never understood the generation's gap. Are there people of a certain age more frequent? Instead, I believe humans reproduce more or less at a yearly constant rate. I understand that having the categories are meaningful for many but to me it's a 'double-dipping' statistical flaw.

[-] odigo2020@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's definitely differences in birth rates -- it's where Baby Boomer got the name. Here are the CDC numbers below, but in brief, the birth rate in 1950 across all races was 24.1, while in 2019, it was 11.4, meaning people in 1950 were squirting them out at over twice the rate as those just a few years ago.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/2020-2021/brth.pdf

[-] anzo@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago

Very informative nonetheless! Thanks for your comment. Today I learnt more about these generations classification that seems to be everywhere.

[-] anzo@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago

Ah. I was speaking of planet earth, the world is big. Americans may have their trends. Similarly, between the different states you might see trends that are masked over when taking numbers "globally".

[-] odigo2020@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

Fair enough. Looks like "According to World Bank data, the global fertility rate was 2.4 children per woman in 2019. This rate is approximately half of what it was in 1950 (4.7), and more economically developed countries such as Australia, most of Europe, and South Korea, tend to have lower rates than do less-developed or low-income countries."

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/total-fertility-rate#:~:text=According%20to%20World%20Bank%20data%2C%20the%20global%20fertility,lower%20rates%20than%20do%20less-developed%20or%20low-income%20countries.

[-] DrBob@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

Sort of. The second world war had a profound impact on demographics in Europe and North America. During the war birthrates were lower than average but during the postwar period there was a surge of births - the baby boom. Once everybody had a houseful if kids birthrates dropped off again - Generation X (that's me).

You're right in that every "generation" since then has gotten fuzzier - for exactly the reasons you mention - and is defined more by cultural events than demographics. But it's also true that the baby boom and bust has had a profound impact on our society, including the invention of "teenager" as a distinct phase of life.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Other than baby boomers, people were reproducing at a near constant rate. There's no "gap" between generations, just some arbitrary year where non-scientists decided to say "group A" is different from "group B".

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blogs/random-samplings/2016/06/americas-age-profile-told-through-population-pyramids.html

It's basically astrology.

[-] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 month ago

What a narrow worldview

[-] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago

Generations are split up by significant cultural events that signal a change in society. For example I draw the line between Millennial and GenZ as remembering a time before 9/11.

[-] creditCrazy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Not only did baby boomers get their name from how their parents popped out babys twice as often as the generation before them but gen z has been populating way less often than their generation but it's getting to a point that it's becoming a world wide crisis I honestly hope people start having tons of kids pretty soon or else we might be facing extinction eventually

[-] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

What's wrong with slow extinction? As long as everybody gets a good life, who cares?

[-] algorithmae 1 points 1 month ago

There are too many people to be sustainable with our current practices. I think we could chill a little

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