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Trump's unprofessionalism and Biden's mumbling are the least important things about those candidates. One has willfully tried to destroy democracy while the other has led the most liberal and progressive administration in U.S. history.
One has tried to destroy democracy and the other will just give up the democracy for the first one to destroy and won't fight for it.
To be clear, the best thing to do is to vote for a democrat in the election, but it would be much better if said democrat isn't Biden
It might be better, but if he's telling the truth about how he isn't going to drop out, then we need to actually rally behind him to help get more independent votes, not constantly talk shit about how awful he is endlessly until the election.
If it's the only option, then the democracy is already dead and voting for Biden is pointless. Democracy entails that the government represents the will of the people. And you're suggesting that because some old fart decided to cling to power, everyone should stop demanding that their will is represented and start kissing that old fart's ass. "That's the only person you can vote for to preserve democracy" is a self-defeating statement...
More liberal and progressive than FDR? Interesting.
FDR ordered men in to have sex with sailors in order to entrap and expose the sailors and arrest them for homosexual behaviors and ruin their lives while he was Assistant Secretary of the Navy. He slowly changed his mind about homosexuality through his years in office but only because he has personal experience with it with Eleanor. It's almost impossible for anyone of that time to be a progressive as we are today. They would be considered staunch conservatives today.
Bringing up his actions in a different job doesn't really seem to have bearing on comparing administrations. Biden has a pretty bad history prior to his presidency as well.
But also, and more importantly, judging progressiveness just by final results, without referent to the era, is not useful. By this logic, the Biden administration could literally be rolling back progress, and as long as they don't go too far, we'd still have to call them "more progressive than FDR". The only useful way to judge progressiveness is as progress made - or at least progress worked for - from the starting baseline.
I think it's reasonable to say Biden has had the most progressive administration since LBJ. I was really surprised by how good he's been, relative to my expectations.