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Actually, I think it's amusingly perfect that the tankies were hyperfocused on conjectural threats posed by capitalists and entirely missed the much more imminent threat posed by a government.
Very true. I had to laugh when I saw lemmygrad.com
lemmygrad.com is just a redirect to exploding-heads.com which is just another extremist instance at the other end of the spectrem.
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone fyi, the defederation list may need to be updated due to the upcoming instance migrations.
Thanks for the heads up. Looks like we'll be ok for this one from what I can tell
Yeah. It still made me smile.
Oh they had to change? Do I need to re-defederate them under the new name?
According to this comment, looks like it should be defederated anyhow
That comment actually makes it look more to me like nothing needs to be done. If it's just a redirect there shouldn't be anything on activitypub for lemmygrad.com, and the Nazi instance was the first one I defederated. At least, that's how I understand it I could be wrong.
What is a tankie? First time I’m seeing it today.
From wikipedia
They usually praise communism and ignore the flaws and horrible practices of things like the U.S.S.R
so a bit like holocaust deniers but on the left extreme of the spectrum
They are the best example of why left unity is bullshit. Tankies are okay with literal fascism as long as it doesn't involve a western country.
I'm all about left unity. If someone makes excuses for authoritarian governments, they're not on the left. If they disagree with black lives matter, they're not on the left. If they're transphobic, they're not on the left. We leftists need to stick together and protect the most marginalised members of our community, by kicking fascists and bigots out. That's what left unity means. Good old paradox of tolerance.
Just because someone's beliefs don't align with yours doesn't mean they "aren't on the left".
Leftism isn't a catch all for good people.
In fact many anarchists became disillusioned with the idea of "the left", hence post-leftism.
That is mighty wrong.
One comment said far left, the next fascists which is the far right. I'm starting to think people are just saying a term that isn't being consistently defined.
Congratulations, you have deduced that the "political compass" is nonsense
Just because it's authoritarian doesn't mean it's fascist. The USSR murdered millions, and was an authoritarian shithole, but that doesn't mean it was fascist. It was communist. Fascism is terrible, but so are other forms of authoritarianism.
It's literally semantics at this point
The "a capitalist economy" bit is the very important distinction. Communist states share most or all of the other traits with fascism. But so do Feudal countries with merchantilist economies, modern dictatorships without government-driven economy, and all other strongly authoritarian systems eventually.
A tankie is a communist who at least defends and often advocates for forced submission to their rule, or more broadly defends the authoritarian regimes that engage in such. It dates back to the USSR sending in tanks to crush an uprising in Hungary in 1956, and was applied to the UK communists who argued in support of the USSR.
The owners of lemmy.ml are tankies.
Someone who drives tanks to work