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[-] Lavitz@lemmings.world 31 points 1 month ago

This! This! This!

Anyone who can afford to invest seems to be doing fine and everyone else is screwed. Rent, bills and the cost of food are out of control.

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

The weird part is people think the president caused any of that or has the ability to fix it.

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Why did Biden say he already fixed the economy then?

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

He is a politician running for reelection in a tight race. He's going to claim credit for anything good that happened during his term that voters might possibly believe.

That's not even meant as a criticism; it's just how the game is played.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

You can’t claim credit for something you couldn’t help fix.

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Politicians claim all sorts of things that have, at best tenuous connections to reality.

We shouldn't accept the claim that Biden fixed the economy, nor Trump's claim that Biden broke the economy, nor either of their claims that they're going to fix it next term.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

So Biden’s a lying dog-faced pony soldier.

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Aren't they all?

[-] Lavitz@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

There's this thing presidential candidates run called a campaign and in this campaign they lay out their economic policies.

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Presidential candidates certainly say things about the economic policies they'd like to see enacted, but most of the actual policy making is up to congress, and monetary policy is the domain of the Federal Reserve.

Factors which no part of the US government has direct control over often have a bigger impact than those that it does, from plagues to wars on other continents to business conditions.

[-] Lavitz@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

You do know who nominates the fed chairman, right?

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I do. I also know that Trump nominated Chairman Powell to his first term, and Biden nominated him to his second. Seems they agree on something.

That's not even unusual; four out of the past five Fed chairs were nominated by at least two presidents from different parties.

[-] Lavitz@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

So we agree the president can make a significant change to the federal reserve which you said is involved in monetary policy. Which means...

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

A president could, in theory make a campaign promise about what kind of people they would nominate to the Fed board. A friendly enough senate might even confirm those nominees.

Other than the chair and vice-chair, board members serve 14 year terms, which are intended to help insulate them from politics. A president with very specific ideas about monetary policy could put their thumb on the scale a bit, but the system is designed to resist that.

[-] Lavitz@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

I've made my point. Good talk.

[-] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

61% of adults in the US invest - not 1 or 2%.

Prices on food have been decreasing, and mostly were a result of supermarket chains dialing their profit margin up - look at Kroger and Publix’ YoY profit margin numbers.

Housing prices are currently seeing downward pressure. The zero interest rate is what blew up the bubble - and we’re now seeing the effects of correcting it back to a normal rate.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago
[-] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, they own 93% of everything. That’s irrelevant to whether people in the middle class are seeing a better economy. And, which president has helped improve that figure, and which has not?

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

People are not seeing a better economy, they can see past the gaslighting coming from our government, and gaslighting doesn't pay the bills

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