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[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago

I'm not the one casting for a vote for fascism lite. I want NO fascism

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Here, since you don't seem to actually know what real fascism is: wiki

What you want (giving you a brief assumption that you're actually genuine) is a radical overnight change from capitalism to a socialism based economy. Which is respectable, id like that too. Id like our government to actually provide real healthcare and cut out private companies and nationalize everything from water to electricity to ISPs and actually serve the people like governments should.

But it will. Not. Happen. Overnight. It's just not realistic in any sense of the word unless you have the ability to bring things into existence from sheer will.

Even the real fascists on the far-right took DECADES of propaganda and billions upon billions of dollars getting to where they are now

To bring things as far left as you want is going to take time and effort.

You want to know how you bring a country left? You vote for the leftist most candidate, with the best shot of winning you can. If all Democrats continuously showed up to vote as much as Republicunts did we wouldn't be in this mess and we likely would be a lot further left than we are now

You need to swallow your pride and selfishness and vote left with whoever is on the ballot, then vote D down ticket. If we all voted D consistently, in droves, year after year then the Republican party would fade into irrelevancy.

When that happens what we now know as the DNC will be the new Republicans and another more left party will take their place. Then we do the same thing, voting ever more left.

But it's going to take time, that's unavoidable, but it certainly doesn't help with you screaming "fascist" at every single candidate that isn't perfectly aligned with pure unadulterated socialism.

You are a living example of the quote "Don't let perfect be the enemy of good"

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago

In the words of James Baldwin 'how much time do you want for your progress?' we've been hearing about it takes time for decades and we're having the exact same conversations now that they were having in the 50s and the '60s the same conversation they were having in the 20s and the 30s well over 100 years ago. So again I'll ask how much time do you want for your progress?

[-] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

We're not chiding you and saying electoralism is the only place for progress. In fact we need action outside of that if we want to see any progress. Organize, agitate, protest, unionize, build dual power. Fuckin do it all. But do not resign yourself to allowing the reactionaries to take control of the electoral arena. Do not think that you can wash your hands of the damage that will cause.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago

Democrats are reactionary too. They are the main obstacle to progress

[-] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

🤦‍♀️ please learn what reactionary means

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

In political science, a reactionary or a reactionist is a person who holds political views that favor a return to the status quo ante—the previous political state of society—which the person believes possessed positive characteristics that are absent from contemporary society.

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