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Bro, how many cobs have you husked by hand? What about cotton balls carded, spun and woven? Grain reaped? I haven't done much of those things, but enough to get that it sucks. And that's not even going into the various things all those educated people in the the city make possible, like medicine so you don't die at 5 from a bacterial infection.
Assuming you're in the US, why do you think illegal immigrants are the ones that work the fields? Unless you're about to reveal you're a rural Indian this is some seriously out of touch Marie Antoinette shit.
I think they meant like around population centers to supplant regular food. But I don't know where that would actually be...
My crazy idea is Suburbia has a lot of lawn, and my dad showed me a garden can feed a family more than I would have thought. But who has time to do that? So you nake a law that you forfeit sections of your land, not x feet near your house if they have no existing agricultural or industrial activity for open planting, until at least the next season. Maintained lawns wouldn't exist unless you were somewhere sufficiently rural.
Hopefully, otherwise they're telling the starving African kids to go back to the stone age to save the environment, while they presumably stay somewhere air conditioned. The sad thing is that they probably don't even realise how insulting that is.
Densifying suburbs is a huge thing that needs to happen. It won't change the world, because as big as suburbia is rural areas are bigger, but it will help. It also would do a lot to keep transport emissions down.
This is what I am talking about. You can restore desolate land and make it produce food for humans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vKAPL_WfBA&t=47s&pp=ygUPYW5kcmV3IG1pbGxpc29u
It's unclear why you are projecting some nonsense about me wanting to keep Africans in the stone age. Maybe try to be a bit more charitable.
You said ~~we should~~ much poorer people than you should go back to the way things were thousands of years ago, including living in the boonies handweeding mixed-use gardens in order to not starve. Maybe you're still letting them use metal tools, but that's kind of a weak improvement. They could do agriculture the same way the people who feed your white-collar ass do, with a bit of education and a leg up, but that's not good enough apparently for your highness. Look, I'm trying to be charitable, but this is so outrageous it's hard.
A quick look through your profile suggests you were recently a banker in California. You should basically shut up about how much baking in the sun people you have nothing to do with need to endure. Until you goddamn try it, at least.
They didn’t say that, you inferred it. Also your take on them not going to school? The fuck? They can definitely do both
No, mate. I'm close with actual relief workers IRL. ^Albeit^ ^one^ ^less^ ^as^ ^of^ ^a^ ^couple^ ^weeks^ ^ago^ ^:(^
Keeping the kids out of school so they can work the land so you don't starve is common as dirt. It's as simple as a certain number of hours in a day, and school taking a good half of them. Shit, even farming folk here in the West did similar things a century ago.
I really feel that there must be a streak of racism among the people who responded to this thread. It was weird how people took exception to the idea of food being made in a community.
I think there's a streak of racism among Westerners who think they know better than the people on the ground, if we're going there.
In fact, the people who actually show up to help have a nickname for your lot: "Great White Savior"
I don't think you're a bad person. Or a racist. I do think you stepped in shit and are digging yourself deeper out of, like, pride.
Nah, man, this is all on you. Talking about what people in Africa, India, and Pakistan are experimenting with in their own country does not make anyone outside of there a white savior. This is really all on you.
You didn't just talk about it. You said they should all do it, and specifically shouldn't do standard agriculture, like what you depend on. If they find a use for mixed planting, great, and obviously they do sometimes.
We're done. You're toxic, have a block.
A terrible idea, putting food production in communities and making sure they are fed. I should have known better. You're right, massive agriculture in the hands of a powerful elite is the only answer.