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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by autismdragon@hexbear.net to c/neurodiverse@hexbear.net

Part of the reason I have autism in my name is so comrades I expect to be able to do so will not try to dunk on me for normal autistic behavior like caring about accuracy in rhetoric.

Please don't take a defensive stance and attack me like I'm some federated user (not that you all aren't obnoxiously agressive with federated users who havent actually earned it anyway sometimes, ive called it out a few times recently) spouting liberal rhetoric.

This is an obvious subtweet so fuck it i'm just going to screenshot what im talking about

In this thread I was arguing with the federated lib elsewhere, which was easy to see. But these two users here @Kieselguhr@hexbear.net and @ElHexo@hexbear.net decided to compare me to liberal fact checkers (liberal fact checkers use differences that dont actually matter to try to spin things as false, this is not what was happening here, as I wasnt trying to spin Kieselguhr as false, merely give them advice, AND the difference actually is material). Which frankly is an insulting comparison to make towards an autistic comrade. Then ElHexo decided to tell me information I already knew but wasnt relevant to the correction I made.

Fact checking isnt inherently wrong and playing fast and loose with information in your rhetoric isnt lib shit. Don't give people holes to gotcha you with lmao. Caring about truth is supposed to be one of our values. We are materialists. The fact that they got upbeared over me for this dunk bothers me too, wish I could see upbears so I could correct everyone involved in that too. Please, as leftists, care about truth and dont give liberals opening to gotcha you with. The fact that you've let the bad faith actions of liberal fact checkers start to make you post-truth is not a good sign. Readjust your thinking.

Finally, you really shouldnt approach any fellow Hexbear doing this by assuming bad faith like this, but especially not one with autism in the username. I was trying to improve rhetoric, not prove you wrong. Coming at me aggressively was not an appropriate response. We really should have an official rule of assuming good faith from fellow Hexbears. Especially long standing ones like myself, and ones who are open about being neurodiverse on top of that.

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[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

Alright. I can see what you mean with that. I'll try to be more cognizant. I generally have trouble understanding situational awareness and tend to just comment whatever I'm thinking.

[-] ratboy@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I feel you, it's hard! I don't think you deserved the snark, to be sure. It can be hard to be autistic and always have to feel like you're walking on eggshells for NT people though so I get why you'd be frustrated over their response to you.

Kind of tangent: idk if you have this experience but I feel like it relates- I am always trying to think of arguments from all sides and I REALLY believe that people don't like that lol. Like, I know where I stand and what I believe in, but I try to put myself in the shoes of my "enemy" or whatever to figure out how even from their perspective they are not benefiting themselves, much less any other party, so that just collapses their entire position as illogical. But when I frame things like that I think that freaks people out lol. And I think it makes me out to look more like a lib than I actually am

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

Yeah I know what you mean with that last part. I try to understand where libs are coming from and sometimes that can lead to my fellow leftists being offput.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

There is a reason Marx put as his slogan "Nothing human is alien to me" (translated), it is not enough for a socialist to merely denounce bad things, they must also understand them if they are to actually contend with them. The luxury of flattening other perspectives is one afforded to defenders of the status quo.

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