It always comes from the "nice guys" type. But it is also commonly said on TV that women love douchebags and therefore love being abused. In an episode of Family Guy, Quagmire or Brian tells Stewie that women enjoy being abused, so mistreating them will get them a girlfriend. This idea is obviously wrong and damaging. It perpetuates the idea that women are weak and need to be mistreated in order to be loved, when in reality the opposite is true. Women should be respected and treated with kindness, not abused in any way. This insanity about women should never be tolerated, no matter the context. Not only does this hurt women emotionally, it always leads to physical violence. It contributes to a dangerous cycle of abuse, as women may start to believe that this kind of treatment is normal and acceptable. Abuse of any kind is never okay and it is important to be aware of the damaging effects it can have on people. This shit is exemplified by the case of Brock Turner, who was convicted of sexual assault and served only three months in prison. His lenient sentence was seen by many as evidence that society does not take sexual assault seriously, and that it is somehow acceptable to harm and take advantage of women.
My opinion (I have no doubt I am right about this) is that sexism is the foundation of fascism...
My brother who considers himself a leftist and defines his views as socialist. "Nice guys finish last" and "women love bad boys" are a couple of ridiculous things he often says. Despite the fact that my brother is pretty “popular” with women, he doesn't understand that the women he dates are almost always drug addicts or alcoholics. He dates them through Tinder. It's basically the same thing incels do, judging all women based on this sex app called Tinder.
We should never measure a man's success based on how many women he slept with. It always makes the men treat women like sexual objects or a trophy to put on a display. Fundamentally, they become an instrument to accomplish a goal. (I'm saying we should not "virgin shame" i know it's tempting but try not to do it)
The idea that women only love "alpha males" is complete bullshit and ultimately hurts them. In doing so, it reinforces the dominant-submissive dichotomy. As in, the strong should rule the weak. Observe in the picture I posted that this shitty person compares women to children because of their perceived shared weakness...while asserting that men are stronger than them both...
"""There is nothing worse in my book than a man who betrays the trust of those weaker than himself, be they children or women.""""
Having comedians like Louis C.K doesn't help much either with jokes like "men fuck things up, women are fucked up”. What does that even mean you little shit??? Men are the ones who shoot up schools and throw acid at people when they're rejected. Can't they both fuck things up and also be fucked in the head at the same time? These “jokes” are casually accepted by most people... I am aware that most communists do not think that way, but based on the example of my brother, I am skeptical.
Also, this shithead in the picture says..””many women are understandably attracted to good looks in a man, and willing to overlook some pretty obvious character flaws if the man is, and perceived to be by other women, physically attractive””
It’s like they all think women are 14 year old tweens...They are all naive, according to them.
This is why I am not surprised when a lot of these men end up being child molesters...
The whole "PUA" thing is fascinating in a fucked up way. The lies they tell about women, and the bullshit they tell you will get you laid all only serves to make you pretty much guaranteed to never get laid, and if you did, it would be in spite of all the PUA stuff, not because of it.
Like all good con artists, they create a problem, then sell you the solution. Society doesn't actually really give a shit if someone "can't get pussy." It's only insecure, sexually frustrated manchildren who care about that. So naturally, these con artists target that exact group and tell them things that prey on their insecurities, while also offering the solution, that they alone can teach you how to "control and dominate women" or whatever. Of course, this stuff only makes you incapable of viewing women as people, which in turn makes it impossible to actually have a genuine relationship, so the fledgling PUA strikes out, then goes back to their "guru" for more advice, leading to an endless cycle. And it isn't until someone realises that the whole thing is bullshit that they can actually step away from it.
"makes it impossible to actually have a genuine relationship" well...that's true, most of "legendary" PUAs ended pretty fucked up: mystery ended with a mental breakdown, deangelo (or style, i don't remember) ended with sexual abuse charges, and most of them ripoff each other
I meant for the young men whose minds they pollute with their toxicity. You can't have a relationship with someone if you don't respect them as a person. So no surprise all of these guys are major fuck ups in one way or another. Unless they are outright sociopaths, I can't see a PUA doing anything other than breaking down mentally, or ending up in prison.
"Pick Up Artist" they're guys who think there is some magical video game style cheat code that guys can do to pick up women in bars. They hide their misogyny behind a thin veneer of teaching men to be "self confident" but they are just teaching guys to be assholes.
I think the pick up artists predate the "red pill" part of the manosphere, but they have adopted it since. They all steal ideas from each other, there's no honour amongst professional misogynists.