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this post was submitted on 14 Jun 2023
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you're welcome! although i can't claim that the required new user application was my idea. early in the lemmy days everyone had open registrations and we used to get trolls that would register many accounts (it's rate limited now), and would post weird nazi-ish troll images, or a bunch of scat images, etc. the trolls also seemed to enjoy impersonating the two main devs as well, and it just got annoying so most instances decided to implement the registration applications, and i just followed along, and have kept it ever since.
and there's now some drama with two of the bigger instances with open registration too. sighs
anways, i think i've said it before but will review the whole registration application thing at some point. i know it's an annoying barrier, and we could probably have more users if it wasn't on, but i like to think that the user/content quality is higher because of it. at least that's what i'm telling myself!
Interesting 🤔 thanks for the drama link. Seems pretty reasonable since they're a safe space first, and I know for a fact I saw (and reported just myself) a lot of bad actors just spamming lgbtq spaces yesterday
yep, totally their choice. it happens all the time in the fedi.
So, like, say, Usenet, we can't choose not to receive feeds on certain people/subs/etc ?
bah. I guess, whether we can or not, it's a lot of management to pick and choose ...
... and in selecting or filtering content don't we lose the section-230-like protections in USMCA as we're no longer just a carrier but a content moderator??
i'm not 100% sure what you're referring to, but as a user, you can block users & communities to your hearts content.
as an admin, i can block (defederate) from whole instances as well.
I think that friction plays a useful role in many processes and circumstances. In this case, the "entrance essay" may have a role in managing growth. If the old theory about vandalism being a side effect of boredom is correct, then it might at least filter out the lazy disrupters.
Re: de-federation. To me, the whole point of a federated system is to allow "super communities" to form. That is, each person finds a home among the various instances and the collective that forms (or the admins fostering the growth of the kind of community they desire) makes and breaks connections to other instances to meet larger objectives. Neither federating nor de-federating should be undertaken lightly and neither action should be considered more or less important than the other.
Note: when I say "finds a home," I don't mean a single or even necessarily a primary instance. Each of us contain multitudes, and explicit federation with other instances is a pretty blunt instrument.
I love the signup barrier and hope you find a way to keep it! Thank you :)
Out of curiosity -- assuming you read them all -- have you ever seen anything truly bizarre in an essay?
i've had a few that have made me laugh but for the most part they've been fairly standard. i really should keep a list of the good ones, haha.
I like your approach. The right thing to do now now may be different than the right thing to do later, gotta just be pragmatic depending on the state of the community and the state of the infrastructure behind it. I think the desire for unlimited and fast growth at all costs is a trap people often fall into.
I was surprised that an email address is optional here on lemmy.ca
It should be required and verified. Otherwise you could sign up and do shit, get banned and repeat.
Nothing stops anyone from using a temporary email service to sign up though.
yep, or googles (and other providers) + thing, whatever it's called.
just to expand on this a bit, when i took over the instance that was how it was setup (no e-mail required), and i never bothered to change it.
if someone wants to sign up and do bad shit, even with emails required & verified, it's still easy for them to create multiple accounts.