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I am elevating this from megathread post to real post

I regret looking at X almost every time

This weird discourse has done actual psychic damage I think

Can someone make this make sense to me? Not uncritically adopting the weaponization of language traditionally, normally even, used to attack queer and neurodiverse people against less-lib American reactionaries by Democrats makes you a fed? It's not a hill I would die but yeah

We are truly reaching levels of normality never seen before, regardless of how not weird and normal it is in many sections of society to be a turbo-reactionary

Have we entered a period where internet leftists and ~~K-hive~~standard internet left-libs become almost indistinguishable? I feel like I'm stuck in the event horizon of a terminally online singularity, spiraling toward a center of infinite onlineness

The most online people I have ever seen are telling other online people to log the fuck off, the ๐Ÿฅฅ๐ŸŒด usernames are joining with the ๐Ÿ‰๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ usernames in fed-jacketing people, the Democrat campaign is reposting dril tweets

We are cooked, the kamala-coconut-tree internet singularity consumes us all

Weirdn ormal weird werird normal couch weird weird normal

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

Fascists are ultra conformists. They believe in a "normal" and want everything to conform to it. They see everything as outside that normal as "weird" and attack it.

The second comment is not incorrect in that this is what fascists do.

However, what it fails to recognise is that by calling fascists weird you're calling everything they claim is weird "normal". Thus the term does not apply to lgbt people or other marginalised nor is it harmful.

[-] Bloobish@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Exactly, this is an example of linguistic/cultural liberation by relabeling a oppressive term back upon the oppressor and bringing the oppressed into the societal consensus. i.e. LGBTQ, minorities, neurodiverse individuals are normalized and welcomed into society while reactionaries are not, a nightmare for fascists.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes exactly.

Also what's neat about this is that if it goes on for long enough it will force the fascists into conforming to what we've defined as normal. They are ultra conformists, if they are made uncomfortable by being the "weird" ones for long enough they will conform in order to find comfort again. They can't go on feeling uncomfortable forever, they will triangulate a comfort zone for themselves.

Bullying them genuinely really works.

This also works on some of the liberals from a leftist position too but with moralising. They want to believe themselves moral people and pointing out that they're not and bullying them for it makes them triangulate into a new comfort zone where they move leftwards. It doesn't necessarily create socialists but it does create something better. Although I would say in the case of at least some people here a pathway into socialism did come through this.

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