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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by PaX@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net

I am elevating this from megathread post to real post

I regret looking at X almost every time

This weird discourse has done actual psychic damage I think

Can someone make this make sense to me? Not uncritically adopting the weaponization of language traditionally, normally even, used to attack queer and neurodiverse people against less-lib American reactionaries by Democrats makes you a fed? It's not a hill I would die but yeah

We are truly reaching levels of normality never seen before, regardless of how not weird and normal it is in many sections of society to be a turbo-reactionary

Have we entered a period where internet leftists and ~~K-hive~~standard internet left-libs become almost indistinguishable? I feel like I'm stuck in the event horizon of a terminally online singularity, spiraling toward a center of infinite onlineness

The most online people I have ever seen are telling other online people to log the fuck off, the 🥥🌴 usernames are joining with the 🍉🇵🇸 usernames in fed-jacketing people, the Democrat campaign is reposting dril tweets

We are cooked, the kamala-coconut-tree internet singularity consumes us all

Weirdn ormal weird werird normal couch weird weird normal

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Using a term used to oppress others towards the oppressors is liberation for the oppressed and praxis against the oppressor by way of renegotiating who is and isn’t in the “out group”

I think I disagree. Would a perceived average individual such as Walz calling Trump a f*g be liberating?

[-] Bloobish@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

The use of the term f*g would need to be culturally changed so as not to just be calling Trump a member of the LGBTQ group and thereby out grouping them with Trump. Weird as a term is meant to state you are outside of what is acceptably "normal" while the slur is for a specific insult towards a specified out group (i.e. homosexuals), thereby using "weird" against fascists and reactionaries states that they and their beliefs are not normal nor accepted within society and inversely that those they persecute are more welcome than them thereby culturally challenging the dominance reactionaries have in cultural discourse away with one simple phrase "why are you so weird?".

Remember that average peeps in society don't usually read long essays on why accepting human beings is good which is something reactionaries bet upon and use small form propaganda to emotionally distort, therefor using a common tactic they use back upon them has ruffled them far more than calling them murderers/psychopaths etc because stuff like this stays far longer within the cultural zietgiest (i.e. why are those forever Trumper people so weird about genitals/gay people/Mexican people?).

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

So this is an attempt to take back normal for ourselves and relegate fascists into the role of counterculture?

[-] Bloobish@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

Counterculture movements are commonly legitimized by way of being seen as counter to culture and open to discussion or investigation by the prevailing culture (for examples hippies, green movements, anti imperialist actions etc), labeling something or a group as "weird" more or less relegates them into the same lane as cults, extremely religious/zealous individuals and people in town that parents wouldn't want their kids around. Weird as a term when applied is used to remove the chance for debate or open exchange and is why it is used by fascists to shut down other groups, i.e. "don't talk to those weirdos they want to turn you into x".

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Punks and hippies were definitely considered weird.

[-] Bloobish@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

I'd say odd but not weird given they were absorbed into the culture (music, grung, punk aesthetics), weird is more Scientology and how they have to interact with people without saying who exactly they are until they finally have them in the organization given how much of a joke they are.

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