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OK, get your own anecdotes, ask random, apolitical coworkers "Who are you voting for, and what policies or actions will they implement that you like. What policies or actions do you expect to implement that you don't like".
It's no longer 2020, so I'm sure the specifics have changed, but I'm certain you'll find incoherent ideas very loosely related to reality.
Sure, you can find anecdotes for anything. But anybody expecting defund the police out of a moderate like Biden was ignorant, which is fairly uncommon among actual progressives. Dude was clearly old dem establishment, he was Obama's VP and defeated the progressives like Bernie in the primary after all.
edit: Oh, and if you think all dems want progressive values, that's a very strong sign that you're consuming conservative media. That's their line.
Once again, the average american is very low-information. A few times I had to explain that the primary vote had been the one to decide whether any of the policies that would help them would be on the ballet, and stuff like emptying the camps, defunding the police, and cutting military spending weren't even on that.
Progressives are told that dems share their values, or infer that from republicans opposing those values.
Yeah that's true, most people are not particularly engaged with politics. This is partly what lets Trump get away with switching his positions so often.
If we look at the House though, where each member represents a fairly small district, we see that the squad is progressive and has a handful of members out of hundreds. They side with the dems due to the two party system, but are just a small faction within it. Ultimately we just don't have the numbers. Dems try to court us, but also try to court the never Trump repubs that fled their party.
I don't think I've ever encountered a progressive that thought the dem party was all AOCs and Bernies and not a whole bunch of more status quo, "typical politician" types. Though that could just be a regional culture thing.