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submitted 1 month ago by gedaliyah@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

A young Jewish man was stabbed early Saturday morning near the Chabad movement’s headquarters in New York City by a man yelling “Free Palestine,” according to a local rabbi who said he knows the victim, as well as CCTV footage of the incident published online.

Yaacov Behrman tweeted that during Shabbat, the young male attacker asked the man: “Do you want to die?” He then stabbed him.

The victim was taken to the hospital and is expected to make a full recovery, Behrman said.

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[-] samokosik@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

When a Muslim is stabbed, no one seems to rant about Iran, Iraq and other Muslim countries making life for their people less unsafe.

On the other hand, the fact someone stabs a Jew, it’s clearly Israel’s fault.

This approach is incorrect no matter what.

[-] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Someone wasn't around right after 9/11

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I was about to say. This person is either in their 20's, or they live somewhere other than the USA.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh, wow, Whataboutism.

Hadn't seen that specific falacy being used in defense of ethno-Fascist genocidal child mass murderers in at least 5 minutes...

[-] samokosik@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

What was I defending and where?

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sure...

Your worry about posters here "unfairly" blaming Israel - whose government can't stop genociding men, women and children of another ethnicity at the same time as claiming they represent all Jews and call those that criticize that government and that genocide anti-semites - for the increase of acts of anti-semitism justified by said genocide, is purelly the result of you being a pure, loving soul that can't but empathise with the suffering of the poor Genocidal ethno-Fascists.

I mean, what pure soul out there wouldn't feel pain when people are "unfairly" blaming genocidal ethno-Fascists who claim to represent an entire ethnicity and accuse those critical of them of being against that ethnicity, for an increase in actions against that ethnicity justified by the genocide being commited by those ethno-Fascists: there is clearly no relation at all between ethno-Fascists doing horrible deeds claiming it's for an entire ethnicity and there being people who believe that ethnicity is responsible for those crimes.

And don't get me started on how your choice of "whatabout" targets just happen to be Islamic nations and Islam, THE favorite choice of pro-Zionism racists, and not even being an equivalent "whatabout" since none of those nation went around committing genocide whilst claiming to represent Islam and accusing critics of being Islamophobic.

Clearly you're just one big misunderstood impeccably fair softy and all the coincidences in the kind, form, quality and target of that argument of yours with the style used by pro-Zionist racists is just an amazing coincidence.

[-] samokosik@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, I just pointed out a trend that is happening in this post. Most of the context you just made up.

Definitely I am not excusing any of Israel’s actions that are truly atrocious.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There are two reasons for something being said by multiple people:

  • It's just people following people, and repeating what others said, which indeed is a trend.
  • It's multiple people independently deriving the same conclusions from the facts on the ground.

If somebody is shot on the street in front of a crowd and dies, and 10 passerbys who saw it are interviewed and all say that "a person was murdered", it's not a trend, it's them deriving the same conclusion from having observed what happenned.

Similary the people here having read again and again, from the government of Israel and Western "leaders" such as Sholz and Biden calling Israel "the Jewish Nation" and even accusing those critical of Israel and its actions of being anti-semite (i.e. of being "against Jews", not of being against Israel) and then seeing news of somebody attacking a Jew whilst loudly criticising Israel, multiple people are all concluding from that base data that all those claims of Israel representing Jews are why some people really do believe Israel represents Jews, is simple logic: cause and consequence rather than a social mechanism like a "trend".

It's so simple logic, that confusing it with a meme is strange.

Beyond that, the tendency for people to actually go to the trouble of sharing with others that conclusion here now is probably driven by their outrage at the actions of Israel in recent times - very few people were pointing out the logic conclusion that "Israel claiming to represent Jews will lead others to actually believe it and hence blame Jews for any bad actions of Israel" back when the Israeli Genocide was slow burning and they weren't murdering thousands of chidren a month.

[-] samokosik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

How is this relevant to what I said?

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