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[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 180 points 4 weeks ago

"When I look at Robert E Lee, the comparisons to him and George Washington are immense," he said, noting Washington also owned slaves.

Not the same.

"I wonder when George Washington's name and things like that will then have to come off of things."

One helped found this country. Another fought this country.

"But to be taught that everyone who fought for the Confederacy, or did this, or did that, is a racist slave holder, that's all or nothing, and that really isn't doing history justice," he added.

We really need to teach better in history class. THAT is where we need to stop removing things, not statues and dedications to traitors of the country. He doesn't understand WHY the Confederacy started the war, does he? Maybe he should dive into the declarations from the various states on why they seceded. It's plainly mentioned in almost all of them.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 39 points 4 weeks ago

One helped found this country.

Canadians don't have a cult of personality around our first Prime Minister the way Americans do around George Washington.

Canada was apparently founded on uniting white Europeans to eradicate the "savage" indigenous populations here.

So... founding the country can be overlooked to an extent if the person was otherwise an asshole.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago

And Canada still continues that tradition today, don't worry. Y'all might acknowledge your First Nations people better, but that doesn't mean Canadian police and the RCMP especially hesitate when they see a chance to shoot some indigenous people.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 weeks ago

No doubt. Our police aren't quite as gun happy as the US cops, but they still find their own ways to murder people they consider to be lesser than them if a gun might be too egregious for a given situation.

[-] bizarroland@fedia.io 10 points 4 weeks ago

I mean sometimes they would just arrest a native American on a freezing cold night, drive them miles out into the middle of nowhere and then kick them out.

They gave it a beautiful name. They called it a "starlight tour". And we have no official records of how many native Americans were murdered by Canadian police officers using this process.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/starlight-tours

This is one of the first things that comes to my mind, as a native american, every time somebody mentions that Canada is so great and wonderful and how much they wish we could move there.

[-] gramie@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 weeks ago

That's interesting. I don't think I have ever seen someone refer to an Aboriginal Canadian as a Native American. Native Canadian yes, but native Americans were always south of the border in my mind.

[-] bizarroland@fedia.io 2 points 3 weeks ago

A native American in the general is somebody that's native to the Americas.

There are native Americans in Mexico and in all South American countries as well.

[-] gramie@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

I understand the concept, but I have never heard the term Native American used for anyone except the indigenous people within the United States of america.

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