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[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

How? In that it verbally tut-tuts Israel?

[-] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The less tut-tutty stuff barely failed, which I would call progress, it sucks that that is where it is at but movement is happening.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

It sounds like you haven't pulled them left at all but failed by a narrower margin at pulling them left at all.

[-] jaywalker@hexbear.net -1 points 3 weeks ago

How is failing by a narrower margin not pulling them left if it's people voting?

If ten people vote for some leftist proposal and it fails, but then next year 20 people vote for some leftist proposal and it fails...is that not pulling that group to the left?

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

Wake me up when something, even the slightest pittance, is actually achieved in the DSA's policy, because the DSA as an organization has not moved left until its policy is affected.

[-] jaywalker@hexbear.net -1 points 3 weeks ago

Did they not take a slightly stronger anti Zionist stance?

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

Their statement was a little different, the potential policy differences were gutted.

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

That's just a minor quantitative change. There's no qualitative change.

[-] jaywalker@hexbear.net 0 points 3 weeks ago
[-] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

dialectical materialism posits that qualitative changes occur through the accumulation of quantitative changes- for example, adding grains of sand will eventually produce a pile of sand- I think this runs contrary to what they're trying to argue though, so maybe I'm incorrect in what they're referencing.

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