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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Lots of Russians died too, so as far as they're concerned it's a win.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

they could have surrendered just like the other Russians did.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's not really how wars work in the 2020s. There's no opportunity to surrender when you get droned in a truck miles away from the front lines or hit by a glide-bomb in your barracks hundreds of miles from the front. We saw the same thing in the conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Okay call it not surrendering then but deserting and then surrender.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Between deserting and surrendering is sneaking across miles of territory, through the front lines, in hopes that the other side accepts your surrender and puts you in a POW camp instead of droning the guy in an enemy uniform sneaking towards their position.

We've seen plenty of videos of both sides droning people trying to surrender.

[–] Vuraniute@thelemmy.club 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not "lots of", more Russian soldiers died than Ukrainians, as is typical for this conflict.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Oh good, more Russian orphans than Ukrainian orphans were created. That makes this all worthwhile.

[–] Vuraniute@thelemmy.club 3 points 10 months ago

emphasis on the soldiers part but alright

plus, in war casualties are what matters. I'm only looking at this from a strategic perspective, not a humanitarian one.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Good, maybe that way they grow a spine and overthrow their government instead of rape and kidnapping children in Ukraine

[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's really convenient when you can force other people to fight and die for your war..

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

In our defense we didn’t invade either country.

[–] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

True, but this war isn’t ours. We just provided matériel to an ally who was invaded. That’s what we’re supposed to do.

[–] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

yes amerikkka and its european puppets ONLY, supported a qoup and its resulting regime, tried to pull said qoup regime into an allience of aggression designed to threaten Russia, provided said regime with weapons, provides said regime with munitions, provides said regime with satellite data to make it possible to target stuff, provides said regime with money, proivides said regimes soldiers with training and encourages mercenaries to go fight for said regime.

yep its NOT a proxiwar and amerikkka is NOT involved in any meaningful way, and for sure gold stars do NOT keep appearing at a much higher rate than before in the CIAs stupid war criminal celebration wall.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ohhhh you’re not at all concerned with reality. Go away and let the sane people talk

[–] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago

my guy u are looking at a proxy war and not seeing it, reality cant even approach ur liberalism poisoned mind.