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[-] Kinglink@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am not disagreeing with you, but you also have to think, maybe the system is designed in such a way that all trials are made to take up as much time. The prosecutors need to build a case, but it seems it's part of the legal proceeding instead of done before that. That means they can arrest someone that they think do it, and continue to work on the case.

Yes there's multiple legal challenges and appeals but all of those are now required as part of the legal process. Imagine if you're a prosecutor, and the client says he wants a speedy trial, but you know you need an extra two or three weeks, you make an accident that means they have to go to the appeals court. Now you get your two or three weeks.

It's not that straight forward, but the idea of a "Speedy trial" doesn't feel like it exists in moden America because a good lawyer knows that the appeals process may need to happen.

Personal story My daughter was caught "Stoned" at a school dance... The vice principal took her over to the police, (That fucking bitch and we'll see why). The police did a sobriety test, Concluded she was under the influence. Suspended for a week from school for it, arrested, we had to go get her.

So my wife and I didn't know, we saw all those "no one knows what their kids are doing" So we went and got her drug tested for marijuana thinking it was that. That's what she was suspended for. Conclusive proof no, she was not on it. She wasn't drunk, she wasn't high.... Went to the school with that, school upheld their suspension. It took more than a week, and multiple visits up the school chain including the super intendent and the board. Finally they shut the shit down, chastise the school for not repealing the suspension, and removed it from her record. This was two months later. But my daughter was already outed in front of everyone for this, she lost a week from school (honestly I'd say she never really recovered from that, went home school next semester, in the next 2.5 years, graduated with a Associates two weeks before her high school graduations, so proud of here).

The court case though hung over us for 6 months. We had conclusive evidence she was not on Marijuana. But here's the thing, if the state wanted to be a dick they still could have tried her and said "Some substance". We wanted a speedy resolution, 6 months this was on all our minds. Lawyer said it'd be dropped, but you know... until it's dropped we can't relax. Finally case dismissed ultimately, we had to pay 3-7k (Can't remember) to a lawyer (Friend of a friend, thank god we had no idea who to go to). And everything was finally resolved. Lucky to know that lawyer, lucky we had proof, lucky we trusted our daughter (Ok admittedly not fully at first). And that is why that vice principal is a fucking bitch, because she tried to criminalize our daughter and almost ruined her academic career. She still tenses up around police (Which admittedly may be the right thing to do)

"speedy trial"... That shit don't exist, my friend.

[-] IDrawPoorly@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

This isn’t a conversation, you asked a question the article you didn’t read answered so I posted the relevant part.

[-] Kinglink@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I'm not the guy you originally responded to, but I was saying the points your making are an issue, and "This isn't a conversation" seriously, wtf is wrong with you?

Grow up.

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