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So we’re going to war with Iran huh? (hexbear.net)

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[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 38 points 4 months ago

The USA doesn't have jinking hypersonic missiles. Iran does. So, jot that down.

[-] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

Honest question, but anti missile defenses don't really work (see iron dome) against traditional missiles and there is no effective way to defend against ICBMs. So what's the value of a low flying, fast missile that can't be shot down compared to a high flying, slow missile that is cheaper and also can't really be shot down?

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

I would say western anti missile defenses don't really work because their chief opponents have superior weapons. ICBMs can be intercepted, because their terminal path is predictable although fast. Iran, Russia, China, and North Korea all have hypersonic weapons that have the capacity to make significant trajectory alterations at hypersonic speeds in their terminal path. They cannot be intercepted.

[-] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

I would say western anti missile defenses don't really work because their chief opponents have superior weapons

The Iron Dome, the magnum opus of western middle defense systems regularly fails to intercept unguided, subsonic rockets that are incapable of taking evasive action. I would not say that the Iron Dome fails because Hamas has superior missiles, it fails because shooting a bullet with a bullet is a near impossible task. Also, ICBM interception is close to a fantasy right now. The GMD works around 40% of the time in tests, the arrow 3 does not work at all, the A-235 has only been tested a few times (not in real world conditions either), and China doesn't have an anti ICBM system at all.

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

America doesn't disclose it's capabilities like that. But aiight.

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

You're right, America is super comfortable pretending to not have capabilities they actually have that other countries definitely have. All the very public reports about America's failures in jinking hypersonics and the exchange of the contracts for those jinking hypersonics to some no-name Australian company are for sure just a trick to hide that they definitely have this weapon that being public about would serve as a de-escalatory tool for dominance. You're for sure not an enormous stupid baby who believes in technical superiority that isn't real, and you're definitely not just a very mad and dumb western moron.

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

You started good. But then you ran out of things to stay and added the insults. Ruined your credibility. Learn how defense contracting works the come back to the table.

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

So what you're saying is because I didn't glaze your dick you can't reply? Are you a fucking princess? Oh no, somebody wasn't nice to me so I can't explain myself because I'm a delicate little smol bean who can't articulate my own beliefs

this is the liberal playbook: OH SHIT SOMEBODY CAME BACK AT ME WITH FACTS, BETTER INVENT A REASON I CAN'T DIRECTLY ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THAT SHIT THAT PROVES ME TO BE A REALLY STUPID DIPSHIT DUMBASS

edit: Any liberals in Houston, Texas? I think I'll only stop being mad at them if one of them wants to meet up with me in person directly face to face and I for sure won't just break their knees with a bat, like for sure for sure, I promise, definitely