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this post was submitted on 22 Aug 2024
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I expect downvotes, but I figure thinking out loud about online discourse can be healthy to the general community and so I'm gonna do so.
The real issue here is not the fate of Gaza, I think. I believe that in reality, your failure is choosing not to be apart of the revolution that aims to dismantle the US government - the only way these groups view Gaza has any chance of being saved (by "this group" I'm referring to the condemners, who I suspect are Leninists and similar idealogues). Saying this openly is currently outside of the Overton window in the US still, since a majority Americans are uninterested in actually fighting and dying for a new system. Instead, they just imply it, or condemn stances that constrain to the status quo.
IMO, Such a revolution would need to happen within Israel for it to halt the genocide, and a revolution in US would fail to impact the Israeli government quickly enough to actually save Gaza.
Your individual likelihood of becoming fodder against police, and eventually the US military itself, is also ignored. The revolution itself is for the greater good of mankind in their eyes, and thus your life by itself is inconsequential.
Probably should be directly shutting down this call for joining the revolution rather than trying to appeal to reason - or explicitly state how you're participating.
Overall, I think that the holy week riots demonstrated how effective violent protest can be and that something like that happening again could be good for the US. I'm aware how extreme that statement will seem to some, but the fact that the fair housing act was passed in a week should really show just how effective that kind of violent action can be, and that we shouldn't rule it out.
At the same time though, I understand that many leftists currently are doing what they can to leverage the system to their advantage. This is not out of indoctrination, IMO, but because they have a respect for the lives of those immediately around them - they understand the alternative is sending a large portion of those around them to their die for a cause and they can't conscionably do that. I couldn't do that either, and I'm gonna respect how they're operating currently and try to help how I am able.
You're bringing in shit ton of topics in this statement. It's hard to figure out what's your intent for advocating this. In explicit terms, what exactly do you consider good for humanity? How do you feel about the impact of dismantling the US government? Do you really understand what exactly that would cause?
I am not following what you mean by "this" when you're asking about what I'm advocating.
In explicit terms, my understanding is that Leninists and similar ideologies believe that humanity is in its capitalist phase, and that the next phase is communism. That is what I mean when I say that they believe a revolution in the US is good for humanity.
I don't feel good about the impact of the US being dismantled, nor do I feel good about any western nation being dismantled. I don't think anyone has a full clue what the US collapsing would cause, but I think it would cause catastophe. I am not advocating dismantling, if that's what you think.
Ah, I'm all for it then. I'm just not onboard for careless actions done for the sake of doing, and consequently introducing instability to other's lives.