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[-] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

The fossil fuel industry has spent a lot of money making us dependent on them. They have been so successful that the majority of us would not be able to survive without their products whether it be to get to work, power our cities, heat our buildings, etc.

So what’s a realistic approach to the problem:

Getting billions of individuals to change across the planet? Which requires most of them and their families to die?

Or

Changing a few dozen companies?

[-] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago

How do you expect to change those few dozen companies?

Especially if the majority of us really wouldn't be able to survive without them?

[-] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

By voting and protesting to get a revenue neutral carbon tax passed. Passing legislation to end our dependence on fossil fuels. Creating the political will to hold fossil fuel companies accountable for the damage they’ve done. Taking their profits and use it to fund the work needed transition everyone away from fossil fuels not just those that can afford it.

[-] Gloomy@mander.xyz -1 points 2 months ago

So what’s a realistic approach to the problem:

Getting billions of individuals to change across the planet? Which requires most of them and their families to die?

AND

Changing a few dozen companies.

Changes like this don't happen in an empty space. If you have an Eco aware consumer base it help a lot.

[-] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Your plan is to require every individual on the planet to make sacrifices that could kill them and their loved ones? You think that’s actually achievable?

Did you forget we couldn’t even get everyone to wear masks during the pandemic?

Of course that plan would never work. We can prove it by showing that greenhouse gas emissions have still been increasing after the fossil fuel industry started this carbon footprint marketing campaign.

Changes like this don't happen in an empty space. If you have an Eco aware consumer base it help a lot.

No one is saying we don’t want eco aware consumers and the top polluting companies on the planet are not “an empty space”.

This is a systemic problem that requires political and legal action to fix.

Paper straws don’t reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

[-] Gloomy@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

Your plan is to require every individual on the planet to make sacrifices that could kill them and their loved ones? You think that’s actually achievable?

No. I complete not registered the second half of your sentence while quoting it. No fucking idea how that happend. Complete brain fart on my end.

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