43
Biblical plothole? (Adam and Eve v. Good and Evil) (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/atheism@lemmy.world
35 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Refrigerator logic, or a shower thought:

According to Genesis, God forbids Adam and Eve from eating fruit of the tree of wisdom, specifically of knowledge of good and evil.

Serpent talks to Eve, calling out God's lie: God said they will die from eating the fruit (as in die quickly, as if the fruit were poisonous). They won't die from the fruit, Serpent tells them. Instead, their eyes will open and they will understand good and evil.

And Adam and Eve eat of the fruit of the tree of wisdom, learning good and evil (right and wrong, or social mores). And then God evicts them from paradise for disobedience.

But if the eating the fruit of the tree of wisdom gave Adam and Eve the knowledge of good and evil, this belies they did not know good and evil in the first place. They couldn't know what forbidden means, or that eating from the tree was wrong. They were incapable of obedience.

Adam and Eve were too unintelligent (immature? unwise?) to understand, much like telling a toddler not to eat cookies from the cookie jar on the counter.

Putting the tree unguarded and easily accessible in the Garden of Eden was totally a setup

Am I reading this right?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Which is interesting, because the very first line... Gods is plural. That carried over into Latin, then was singularized after that.

Which makes sense if you consider the commandments:

Exodus 20:2-3

 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. You shall have no other gods before me."

It's acknowledging the existence of other Gods, but I am YOUR God.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Oh. That’s another thing.

The exodus didn’t happen. Or, rather, the Israelites were always there. What most scholars think is that refugees came up from Egypt and their story was adopted as they assimilated into the broader culture .

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yup, yup. There's no evidence the Jews were enslaved in Egypt and the Sunday school stories about slave labor for the pyramids is equally nonsense.

https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/who-built-the-egyptian-pyramids-not-slaves

https://historum.com/t/egypt-knew-no-moses-evidence-on-why-exodus-never-happened.194987/

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

these days my favorite sunday school lessons include cute, featherless dinosaurs.

i know. I know. but who doesn't want to live in a world with cute featherless dinos?

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago
[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

to be fair, I did specific "featherless".

(also, that video now just made the rounds to all three other people working in my office.... Eh. it's friday. we mostly bullshit and wait for something to go wrong.)

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I get it, but the idea of a pack of raptors singing "Let the bodies hit the floor" made me giggle.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

Monotheism (as opposed to monolatrism) is a much more recent thing than the scripture itself, an invention of the middle ages at earliest.

this post was submitted on 04 Oct 2024
43 points (89.1% liked)

Atheism

3984 readers
1 users here now

Community Guide

Archive Today will help you look at paywalled content the way search engines see it.

Statement of Purpose

Acceptable

Unacceptable

Depending on severity, you might be warned before adverse action is taken.

Inadvisable

Application of warnings or bans will be subject to moderator discretion. Feel free to appeal. If changes to the guidelines are necessary, they will be adjusted.

If you vocally harass or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.

Likewise, if you are a member, sympathizer or a resemblant of a group that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of any other group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you you will be banned on sight.

Provable means able to provide proof to the moderation, and, if necessary, to the community.

 ~ /c/nostupidquestions

If you want your space listed in this sidebar and it is especially relevant to the atheist or skeptic communities, PM DancingPickle and we'll have a look!

Connect with Atheists

Help and Support Links

Streaming Media

This is mostly YouTube at the moment. Podcasts and similar media - especially on federated platforms - may also feature here.

Orgs, Blogs, Zines

Mainstream

Bibliography

Start here...

...proceed here.

Proselytize Religion

From Reddit

As a community with an interest in providing the best resources to its members, the following wiki links are provided as historical reference until we can establish our own.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world