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[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

This is antisemitic trash. The power dynamic is the other way. Don't fall into this shit

[-] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

I don't think the power dynamic is the other way. Netanyahu, Biden and every other American politician are just conjoined in their principled zionism and genocidal tendencies. The US has some interest in keeping the entire region destabilized, yeah. But that's hardly the point.

[-] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

I'd argue that the power dynamic is the other way, but the more important fact is that "Manifest Destiny" and all the other genocidal tendencies of the west cannot be untangled.

Zionism is the expression of "Manifest Destiny" (and "Rule Britannia" and other European imperialism) in west Asia; it is part of their larger system of global imperialism, genocide, and destabilization. The US and the collective west does not have "some interest" in keeping the region destabilized- it has its entire interest there (while also having its interest simultaneously elsewhere), because it is pursuing global domination and hegemony, a hegemony that will only ever be secure if they were to genocide off or enslave and cull much of the entire rest of the planet. The US (and the collective west, all of which also is banking on the Eurocentric/Atlanticist system of genocide and imperialism remaining) cannot hope to maintain global hegemony if west Asia- the crossroads between Africa and east and west Eurasia- falls out of its grasp. They also cannot hope to maintain global hegemony if the Pacific does, or Latin America does, or the natural resources of Africa does, etc- or if large nations like China, Russia, India, and the rest of BRICS are allowed to develop such that their peoples have the same means, the same dignity and opportunities as the west- well, you get the gist. They require dominance (and that dominance can only be secured through mass destruction/genocide) and destabilization across the entire globe, or their free ride off the rest of humanity's backs is over.

American Manifest Destiny may have had its differences with Zionism in the early days- and it had its differences with Nazi Lebensraum, and Rule Britannia, Francafrique, and the Spanish/Portuguese empires and their worldview of the "treaty of Tordesillas" dividing the world between the respective nations- but eventually, they all coalesced together (with the US championing and marshalling the western nations in trying to maintain their dominance over the majority of humanity).

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

But that's hardly the point.

Okay, what is the point? If you're saying Isreal controls the US i can't see how your point is anything but antisemetic

[-] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you're saying Isreal controls the US

Netanyahu, Biden and every other American politician are just conjoined in their principled zionism and genocidal tendencies.

It's pretty obvious what I actually said. Nobody 'controls' anyone. The zionist political project is something that unites all sorts of american politicians, be they the President of the US or a brooklyn born Prime Minister of Israel. There's no seniority between neighbors. Which is why, for an example, John Mearsheimer only argues that the american president needs to be more forceful towards Israel in the preservation of of the Zionist colonial project. That's the greatest divergence you can find in US politics.

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