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Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 Dev Says Big Budget Games Are Failing in Part Because Teams Are Over-Scoping Their Projects (www.ign.com)

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[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

I’ve heard this often, but most of the games I see people consume live updates for weren’t initially planned to get such constant updates.

Ex: Dead by Daylight. Released as dumb party horror game with low shelf life. Now on its 8th plus year. Fortnite: Epic’s base building game that pivoted to follow the battle royale trend, then ten other trends. DOTA 2: First released as a Warcraft map. GTA V: First released as a singleplayer game before tons of expansion went into online. Same with Minecraft.

It just doesn’t make sense to pour $500M into something before everyone agrees it’s a fun idea. There’s obviously nothing gained in planning out the “constant content cycle” before a game’s first public release.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Drag can think of one counterexample: Warframe. But Warframe is also 100% free to play and free to participate in every content update and event. And Warframe is developed by an indie team from Fake London who started the game with 120 employees.

[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Warframe feels just as riddled though with all of its different kinds of currencies and crafting mechanics. It may not have an egregious mtx model but the game loop around it still feels like it's meant to. I much more enjoyed the game in beta when it was simpler. I go on it now and I haven't got a fucking clue what to do, fumble around for an hour and just decide to play something else instead.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 months ago

Warframe is much more fun with friends. Friends will tell you that you don't have to bother with all the currencies. You can just do the story missions.

[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

That's the thing, had no idea there were specific story missions or where to do them

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh, good news for you. They just released an update two days ago that separates the quests in the codex into story, side, and warframe quests. DE listened to player feedback and fixed the problem. Now you go to the codex terminal, you click on story quests, and it tells you what to do next.