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It would be fun to get ahold of these bibles before distribution, so we could highlight all the best stories. Like when the daughters of Lot decided to get their dad drunk and have sex with him, or when a prostitute was said to lust after lovers with genitals as large as a donkey’s and emissions like those of a horse.
Or when God aborts the baby.
Where's that?
Numbers 5: 11-31…. Not much is said but a recipe to perform abortions is given
I'm sorry but... what?
Numbers 5:11-31 ESV
There's absolutely no mention of abortion here- in fact, verse 28 makes it clear that she "shall be free to conceive", so it shows that she wasn't even pregnant to begin with. It's clearly talking about a woman becoming infertile if she cheats on her husband, and nothing to do with an abortion or terminating a pregnancy.
The thighs fall away, god kills the baby, but only if she cheated seems pretty clear to me, but this is English version rewritten from other English versions of a Hebrew bible
This is the only thing I know of that even comes close to talking about abortion in the Bible though, and it is sanctioned by god and the priest.
If I cared that much about what god thinks I would ask myself but if you want to find other translations more close to the original Hebrew I’m interested in reading lol
Abortion is legal in Israel, and based on just reading the headlines became so even more shortly after our supreme court overturned roe v wade in the United states
There's zero mention of a baby being present. Verse 28 says she will be free to conceive. The Hebrew just mentions the same that her womb swells up and she becomes infertile and inflicted with heavy periods, which would make her "unclean". Also, the State of Israel isn't a Christian country, so I don't see how that's relevant.
The Christian’s use the same book and have made shit up
But I’m looking online and some say this is the abortion verse but you’re right even the Jewish word for abortion is not used
As far as whether any verse is about abortion is interesting to me, but the Bible is ridiculous to use as any kind of modern day reference to what law should or shouldn’t be
No, the State of Israel isn't dictated by the Old and New Testament canons of scripture. Jews also use the Talmud and fully reject Christ. You cannot claim that abortion is okay in Christianity because the state of Israel - a Jewish country - have it legalised.
Christians can stick the Bible up their ass. I don’t really care what it says or doesn’t say in the Bible, and I won’t allow the Bible to have a say in any laws where I live.
I am interested though in what people are saying the Bible says, and this verse is frequently used to justify abortion.
To find it I just googled abortion Bible verse, there are apparently others as well.
Judaism is a much older religion than Christianity obviously, but the Hebrew Bible and the commentary are a good place to start when learning about Judaism
Why didn't you just say that then? You don't need to use the Bible to justify your political opinions.
Judaism in it's current form isn't the same Judaism that existed before Christ. After Christ came, Christianity was formed due to prophetic fulfillments and modern-day Judaism came from doctrine trying to explain away what just happened (as some dude showed up, fulfilled their prophecies, claimed to be God, was crucified then rose from the dead), notably the talmud. So we could equally say we're as old as Judaism. Kind of like how the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Church both claim to be the oldest- but they split 1000 years ago and both have changed quite a bit since
it won't change their minds.
What's wrong with these passages specifically? That they're sexually explicit and not appropriate in schools?
I’m not expecting to change the minds of adults. But if they’re going to force a bible into childrens’ hands, they better be prepared to address the passages in it that might even make Christians uncomfortable.
There's nothing wrong with these passages, though - they're just descriptions of things that happened
Wow, so then we don't need to ban any books because they are just descriptions of things that happened.
Why should we ban books?
It's still not comparable to political manifestos though that encourage or seek to normalise certain ideas though, like mein kampf trying to advocate for discrimination against Jews