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The actual paper is an interesting read. They present an actual computational proof, stating that even if you have essentially infinite memory, a computer that's a billion times faster than what we have now, perfect training data that you can sample without bias and you're only aiming for an AGI that performs slightly better than chance, it's still completely infeasible to do within the next few millenia. Ergo, it's definitely not "right around the corner". We're lightyears off still.
They prove this by proving that if you could train an AI in a tractable amount of time, you would have proven P=NP. And thus, training an AI is NP-hard. Given the minimum data that needs to be learned to be better than chance, this results in a ridiculously long training time well beyond the realm of what's even remotely feasible. And that's provided you don't even have to deal with all the constraints that exist in the real world.
We perhaps need some breakthrough in quantum computing in order to get closer. That is not to say that AI won't improve or anything, it'll get a bit better. But there is a computationally proven ceiling here, and breaking through that is exceptionally hard.
It also raises (imo) the question of whether or not we can truly consider humans to have general intelligence or not. Perhaps we're not as smart as we think we are either.
A breakthrough in quantum computing wouldn't necessarily help. QC isn't faster than classical computing in the general case, it just happens to be for a few specific algorithms (e.g. factoring numbers). It's not impossible that a QC breakthrough might speed up training AI models (although to my knowledge we don't have any reason to believe that it would) and maybe that's what you're referring to, but there's a widespread misconception that Quantum computers are essentially non-deterministic turing machines that "evaluate all possible states at the same time" which isn't the case.
I was more hinting at that through conventional computational means we're just not getting there, and that some completely hypothetical breakthrough somewhere is required. QC is the best guess I have for where it might be but it's still far-fetched.
But yes, you're absolutely right that QC in general isn't a magic bullet here.
Yeah thought that might be the case! It's just a thing that a lot of people have misconceptions about so it's something that I have a bit of a knee jerk reaction to.
Haha it's good that you do though, because now there's a helpful comment providing more context :)
the limitation is specifically using the primary machine learning technique, same one all chatbots use at places claiming to pursue agi, which is statistical imitation, is np-hard.
Not just that, they've proven it's not possible using any tractable algorithm. If it were you'd run into a contradiction. Their example uses basically any machine learning algorithm we know, but the proof generalizes.
via statistical imitation. other methods, such as solving and implementing by first principles analytically, has not been shown to be np hard. the difference is important but the end result is still no agigpt in the foreseeable and unforeseeable future.