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"If Russia is defeated in Ukraine, European submission to the Americans would be prolonged for a century." (www.moonofalabama.org)

submitted 7 months ago by multitotal@lemmygrad.ml to c/ukraine_war_news@lemmygrad.ml

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"If, as I believe, the United States is defeated, NATO will disintegrate and Europe will be left free." - Emmanuel Todd in an interview with Corriere di Bologna

I don't think NATO will disintegrate if Russia wins, although it will be weakened and has already shown itself to be weak/ineffective, a paper tiger. EU has already made plans for an EU army with little interest at its inception, although now I think more countries will be for it.

Emmanuel Todd thinks Russia has maximalist goals in Ukraine, I disagree with him there too, although eventual liberation of Odessa might be in the cards. If they cut off Ukraine from the Black Sea completely, that will just be grounds for another war once Ukraine recovers.

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[–] huf@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

i dunno if europe can come out from under american vassalage, no matter how the war in ukraine ends.

europe is in the unprecedented (for them) situation where in order to look to its economic prosperity, it must dial back its racims. i dont think it's capable of that.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 7 months ago

European power and wealth is built on racism. It can't unhook from that without abandoning capitalism. God knows how bad things have to get before Europeans do something about that.