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Is China socialist?
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The Soviet model is not the only model of socialism.
That's what this issue devolves down to, at the end of the day, and I disagree with that underlying belief.
Agreed, those "China is not socialist" people hold the steadfast opinion that socialism is "when like the USSR or China under Mao", completely ignoring the dialectical aspect of it all or the simple fact that socialism is a process and not a discrete thing.
And the process is never going to be a cookie-cutter clone of any previous one, if it wants to succeed, because the material conditions are never identical. It won't do!
Yes, it's a process, and a transitory state, ultimately.