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US Space Force warns of “mind-boggling” build-up of Chinese capabilities
(arstechnica.com)
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have absolutely not problem believing this, the chinese have their heads down, going back to the moon before us, and are going to rule space, while we're down here re-electing an orange baboon to make sure they do
I don't see this as a bad thing, maybe china landing people on the moon before us will light a fire on both sides of the aisle to stop fucking around with commercial space contracts.
Over-reliance on SpaceX is causing the same problems to Artemis that over-reliance on Boeing caused the SLS program. A year and a half behind schedule, blown their entire budget on a meme rocket that only potentially lifts half the tonnage promised.
we are about to reelect the orange baboon, again. we are no where, going no where. it's a complete disaster. there is nothing good about china gaining dominion over near space.
Hard disagree. SpaceX has been pushing the envelope into reusable rocketry like nothing that's ever been seen before. They delivered their crew capsule years before Boeing, and Boeing's is still far from operational. If you ask me, the cost-plus contracts given to companies like Boeing are the real problem, and contributed to the SLS delays. That rocket will cost us billions of dollars per launch. Compare that to a few Falcon Heavy launches and see whose budget is overblown. At least with the fixed-price contracts given to SpaceX and Blue Origin, the taxpayer isn't on the hook for any delays or cost overruns. Plus, they're the only ones seriously building human-rated lunar landers. Yeah, I wish our space companies weren't in the hands of egotistical billionaires, but that is the world we live in.
The falcon rockets are fine but SpaceX has been raising prices on their launches since they won the majority of the contracts.
It used to cost 20 million a seat on the Soyuz until Russia became the sole provider of crewed launches, then they raised the price to about 80 million a seat.
Along comes musk and promises 20 million a seat and low and behold after the contracts are fulfilled they raise the price to 80 million as well.
SpaceX is falling into the same rut every company that becomes a monopoly enters into, and Starship is Musk's personal meme rocket the taxpayer has already shelled out 4 billion for, and there's not even a launch with a working payload.
SpaceX looks cool flashy as shit but they over-promise and under-deliver at the same rate Tesla does. Early success giving way to overconfidence and an inability to deliver on their lofty promises.
US space policy is dominated by politicians who see NASA as a way to dole out government pork to their local constituencies. As long as that doesn't change, progress will continue to be very slow. The Chinese landing people on the moon just might be what the US need to pull their heads out of their arse and get a move on. If Trump wins, it'll all be fucked up anyway, but so will everything else.
I'm really not convinced that China landing people on the moon would be that much of a wake up call since "we've been there, done that." The moon doesn't have nearly the same inconceivable new frontier value like it did pre-apollo.
Maybe China landing astronauts on Mars would be different, but the general public and congress seem pretty apathetic towards space exploration.
The next frontier is not going to the moon, it's staying there and utilising the local resources. This may have huge geostrategic implications too, so you can be damn sure the Yanks will take notice if the Chinese get there first.