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Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich endorsed President-elect Donald Trump’s victory, stating it’s “time” to extend full Israeli sovereignty over the occupied West Bank.

This comes as Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu highlighted his alignment with Trump on the “Iranian threat.”

Tensions in Gaza and Lebanon have escalated following recent Israeli airstrikes, with regional leaders gathering in Riyadh to address Israeli actions.

Israeli President Isaac Herzog is set to meet President Biden, though Biden’s influence on Israel may be limited following Trump’s win.

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

own the cowardice. Dems suck but every non voter has blood on their hands. Ignorance and apathy are not moral principles.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

I voted, but I have no power to change the outcome of the election. Only the democrats had this power, the blame lies only with them.

Genocide lowers turnout. Saying you’re going to appoint republicans to your cabinet lowers turnout. Pledging to shut down the border and build the wall lowers turnout. Means testing all of your campaign promises lowers turnout. Running tough-on-crime campaign ads raises turnout FOR THE REPUBLICANS!

We've been yelling that the dems will lose if they continue to go right for the last 4 years, but the dems either chose to move to the right on every issue either knowing it would lower their performance, or ignorant because blue maga like you helped shield them from the reality unfolding infront of all of us. I don't know which is more damning.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Genocide lowers turnout.

Which is exactly why Netanyahu made sure not to slow it down. Because low turnout=Republican win. And he knows which candidate will allow him to literally wipe Palestine off the map

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Biden sent Netanyahu every weapon he was allowed to, and had the military protecting Israel.

If the Biden admin didn't want Netanyahu to do this, they could have just not actively supported his efforts to do so.

This was obvious to everyone from the beginning.

Even blue MAGA were doing "But you still need to vote biden, even if the dems never stop facilitating genocide" since Oct 8th, because deep down, they understood the dems wouldn't listen, even if it was going to cost them the election.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I agree the campaign was poor. I agree the party had small, terrible, and stupid ideas. I agree that chasing republicans is stupid.

I will still however yell at cowards who coddle people who think not voting is anything but moral cowardice. Just own it. Take some fucking accountability. Its fine to have issues and complaints, its suicide to encourage people to go full karen.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Blaming the people for the predictable effects of the dem's actions deflects away from only entity that had the power to change the outcome and the only entity that will have the power to change this in 2026.

It's not constructive to go "Damn, I sure wish genocide didn't decrease turnout for the dems"

Just like in 2016, the dems deluded themselves into blaming the voters (specifically black people and/or the left) and bernie sanders instead of themselves, and we are watching them do it again in real time.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I would argue democrat donors preferred a trump win and preferred dem turnout be low because they had a decent campaign for a second and shut it down.

What your saying only makes sense if you operate from the idea dems want to win and not that they want to hand a victory their donors.

In 2016 actual democrat operative tried to twistpeople's arms to vote. This election that energy did not come from the mainstream democrats. Their pitch was "we don't need you, we want republicans instead".

The calculus is different when you recognize both parties hate you.

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