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No I'm not being a duck, ive watched it dozens of times, the hit on the guy sliding didn't look dirty to me, but i wasnt able to pause to see the exact point of contact.
Dirty hit is not the same as a hit that goes badly, it implies intent to cause harm, Claude Lemieux taking out peoples knees are dirty hits, diving to tackle someone isnt a dirty hit even if it goes badly.
What happened to the guy in white after was a sucker punch though and is the very definition of a dirty hit. Regardless of why he did it doesnt change that it was clearly a sucker punch
If the initial tackle was dirty, what should i be looking for? Ill go watch it a dozen more times if you help point out what to look for
There's way too much time between the start of the slide and the hit.
Functionally any forcible contact on a sliding QB is a personal foul. If you push him down hard with your arms after a slide, that's a penalty, and an offensive player is going to get in your face bare minimum. The ball is stopped, and further contact is illegal, as soon as he starts the slide. That's the play over. That impact was helmet to helmet several steps after the play was over.
I don't know nfl rules, thank you. Starting to slide means play is stopped? You dont need contact to stop the play? Okay that certainly makes changes context for what i see
I assumed (from 30 year old memory of learning ) was like when i played cfl football when i was very young, if contact isn't made they can keep going and they aren't "down". Is would like to be able to see a better angle and have the ability to pause.
I disagree that too much time happened before the defense started the motion to tackle, i could never stop in the amount of time i see. That's less than half a second to stop what you have already started. And while im nota preofessional or even play sports it seems super human to stop mid action
In the NFL, giving yourself up means the play is over. It's why players will go down on one knee to end a play even though nobody tagged them. Fun fact, in college football, contact isn't required to down a player. So if they fall down, the play is over regardless.
Also, I feel weird about the QB hits. Most QB hits while sliding are much quicker than this, like they're about to hit them when they start going down. This still feels fast, but defenders do not hit the QBs with that much distance. So obviously for them it's not hard to do.