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submitted 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) by Verenata@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net

spoilerHe is very incorrect

This to me encapsulates the American "progressive" liberals illiteracy regarding politics and they're inability to recognise that other countries however adjacent in the imperial core just do not operate in the same wacky way US politics does.

Hearing someone so embarrassingly mischaracterise several UK cities with a rich political history down to "nooaaww the inner cities aaaarrrr liberull but the suburbs are conservative" and then just misrepresent or flatly get wrong the political landscape currently is just wild given his confidence.

My dude the incredibly down trodden satellite housing to a large city you keep circling back to is not rich and conservative you fucking dolt.

Progressivism = china town and liberalism

That's it, that was his whole spiel was

"this city is progressive, i mean they have china town.... liberalism"

THATS IT!!

This is someone thinks they are a socialist and knows what privatisation is but their understanding of even liberalism is "liberalism = progressive social justice" so like lmao.

And before anyone shakes their torches at me, this dudes is literally mansplaining this to this disinterested women about a country he isn't from, about policies he doesn't understand.

Wine cellar liberal thinking he can problem shoot a system he's not involved in or aware of.

Wild. My family should have never left Cork.

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[-] Thorngraff_Ironbeard@hexbear.net 24 points 18 hours ago

I don't know which is the worse of Americans abroad, Liberals or Conservatives. Liberals do this God awful shit but conservatives will slur you.

[-] Verenata@hexbear.net 34 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

It's a tricky one here's my findings:

  • vast majority of Americans visiting the UK are spoilt privileged white people
  • all are politically illiterate
  • mostly conservative/republican leaning
  • Will just expect you to take your headphones off and give them your time like the entitled little fash they are

So like you just can't win cos if you don't give them a glare before they open their holes then you're now stuck listening about how American is better, our politics are stupid and we are choosing to destroy our country instead of following their example. Liberal or Conservative, that insane perception exists.

Conservatives are easier to put on tilt by laughing and pointing out their insanity and how much of an embarrassment they using big words.

Liberals don't fucking stop. It's like their holiday comes second to forcing their politics down others throats to the point we've seen them get thrown out of bars over it.

I think it's the difference between American conservatives being able to gish gallop other Americans with buzz words vs American liberals having some understanding however illiterate.

So like when I've met American conservatives if you just cut them off and call out their bs as nonsense American shit everyone else in the world laughs at them for, it usually stuns them since white Americans aren't used to being told to fuck off apparently and they just tut and call you rude and "this isn't what I expected British people to be like".

Liberals take that ego hit and funnel it into legitimate harassment because they truly believe they are correct and it's akin to when Christians keep trying to convert people because they genuinely believe they are preventing someone from going to hell.

In my experience.

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 13 points 15 hours ago

can confirm. traveled a little in the UK and 90% of other Americans I met were wealthy psychos. which, makes sense because working class people in the states don't really make enough anymore to travel overseas. I went with retired family who covered hotels and helped with other costs. I've traveled in a lot of US national parks and would always meet people from the UK, IE, western Europe and they would have normal ass jobs like "teacher" and they took international trips each year. I found it instructive about the material distinction between our similar systems, because the chances of finding a teacher who can afford a trip across the Atlantic instead of of having to find a second job for the summer to make rent is low.

one couple I met in a ferry ride up around Orkney seemed ok. we were all shit-tier low level university employees going through rounds of austerity cuts, so we complained about the neoliberalization of higher education without using the theory words. they had saved up for a long time for the trip and had wanted to go for years.

but one guy was the most burger brained asshole. retirement aged, white, bourgeoisie, from Nebraska--a hinterland managed entirely for mechanized agricultural extraction and concentrated animal feeding operations--and he had the loudest nuclear takes. in one breath he would say the monarchy and its demand for new yachts is great because it creates jobs. in the next he would say the NHS is slavery. I remember the tour bus driver having the most powerfully blank look on his face about it.

I wanted to choke him out and dump him in the north sea, but I don't know if that would be ecologically OK.

[-] Verenata@hexbear.net 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

"Wealthy psycho" the correct way of describing them. 99% of the time it's retirees or they "own their owns business" and it's like sure.... move Yankee there's a queue forming!!

Yes sadly while throwing electric car batteries in the oceans for the electric eels is both fun and environmentally conscious, i request no Americans in our rough and tumble puddle.

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