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submitted 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) by Verenata@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net

spoilerHe is very incorrect

This to me encapsulates the American "progressive" liberals illiteracy regarding politics and they're inability to recognise that other countries however adjacent in the imperial core just do not operate in the same wacky way US politics does.

Hearing someone so embarrassingly mischaracterise several UK cities with a rich political history down to "nooaaww the inner cities aaaarrrr liberull but the suburbs are conservative" and then just misrepresent or flatly get wrong the political landscape currently is just wild given his confidence.

My dude the incredibly down trodden satellite housing to a large city you keep circling back to is not rich and conservative you fucking dolt.

Progressivism = china town and liberalism

That's it, that was his whole spiel was

"this city is progressive, i mean they have china town.... liberalism"

THATS IT!!

This is someone thinks they are a socialist and knows what privatisation is but their understanding of even liberalism is "liberalism = progressive social justice" so like lmao.

And before anyone shakes their torches at me, this dudes is literally mansplaining this to this disinterested women about a country he isn't from, about policies he doesn't understand.

Wine cellar liberal thinking he can problem shoot a system he's not involved in or aware of.

Wild. My family should have never left Cork.

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[-] Thorngraff_Ironbeard@hexbear.net 24 points 18 hours ago

I don't know which is the worse of Americans abroad, Liberals or Conservatives. Liberals do this God awful shit but conservatives will slur you.

[-] Verenata@hexbear.net 34 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

It's a tricky one here's my findings:

  • vast majority of Americans visiting the UK are spoilt privileged white people
  • all are politically illiterate
  • mostly conservative/republican leaning
  • Will just expect you to take your headphones off and give them your time like the entitled little fash they are

So like you just can't win cos if you don't give them a glare before they open their holes then you're now stuck listening about how American is better, our politics are stupid and we are choosing to destroy our country instead of following their example. Liberal or Conservative, that insane perception exists.

Conservatives are easier to put on tilt by laughing and pointing out their insanity and how much of an embarrassment they using big words.

Liberals don't fucking stop. It's like their holiday comes second to forcing their politics down others throats to the point we've seen them get thrown out of bars over it.

I think it's the difference between American conservatives being able to gish gallop other Americans with buzz words vs American liberals having some understanding however illiterate.

So like when I've met American conservatives if you just cut them off and call out their bs as nonsense American shit everyone else in the world laughs at them for, it usually stuns them since white Americans aren't used to being told to fuck off apparently and they just tut and call you rude and "this isn't what I expected British people to be like".

Liberals take that ego hit and funnel it into legitimate harassment because they truly believe they are correct and it's akin to when Christians keep trying to convert people because they genuinely believe they are preventing someone from going to hell.

In my experience.

[-] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

vast majority of Americans visiting the UK are spoilt privileged white people

1,000% correct. Any American traveling anywhere abroad (except maybe to Mexico or on a Caribbean cruise) is almost certainly going to be of a middle class or wealthier background. The working class in the US either can’t take time off (because PTO is not legally mandated), they drive to the beach, or fly to Vegas or Orlando.

Edit: I originally said PTO is mandated, that was a typo I meant to say not mandated. This actually came up during the Biden admin as something he could do to make life a little better for workers so of course he never did anything about it.

[-] Verenata@hexbear.net 5 points 14 hours ago

It's stuff like this

The working class in the US either can’t take time off (because PTO is legally mandated), they drive to the beach, or fly to Vegas or Orlando.

My God.

[-] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 8 points 14 hours ago

Finding out if someone did international travel when they were growing up is an incredibly useful shorthand for determining their socioeconomic upbringing here.

[-] Verenata@hexbear.net 7 points 13 hours ago

Going on holiday i sleep,

Finding out they went travelling with money they "saved up" and then they end up spending 3 months in bali it's like.... nepo baby.

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