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spoilerHe is very incorrect

This to me encapsulates the American "progressive" liberals illiteracy regarding politics and they're inability to recognise that other countries however adjacent in the imperial core just do not operate in the same wacky way US politics does.

Hearing someone so embarrassingly mischaracterise several UK cities with a rich political history down to "nooaaww the inner cities aaaarrrr liberull but the suburbs are conservative" and then just misrepresent or flatly get wrong the political landscape currently is just wild given his confidence.

My dude the incredibly down trodden satellite housing to a large city you keep circling back to is not rich and conservative you fucking dolt.

Progressivism = china town and liberalism

That's it, that was his whole spiel was

"this city is progressive, i mean they have china town.... liberalism"

THATS IT!!

This is someone thinks they are a socialist and knows what privatisation is but their understanding of even liberalism is "liberalism = progressive social justice" so like lmao.

And before anyone shakes their torches at me, this dudes is literally mansplaining this to this disinterested women about a country he isn't from, about policies he doesn't understand.

Wine cellar liberal thinking he can problem shoot a system he's not involved in or aware of.

Wild. My family should have never left Cork.

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[-] Thorngraff_Ironbeard@hexbear.net 16 points 18 hours ago

Genuinely curious what do they say you are doing to destroy your country? I'm guessing conservatives say something about immigrants/multiculturalism?

[-] Verenata@hexbear.net 24 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Liberals say the same shit, it's just tempered.

Like both think:

  • immigration is erasing our culture
  • immigration is hurting native Brits (you can see their settler brains on this one, native Brits hahahaha)
  • our communist benefits system is bankrupting our country and hurting those apparant native British again.
  • NHS is communism and means that people get less health care
  • we don't start enough wars and appear weak

The only difference is the politeness of how they articulate it from my experience.

Celts crying rn 😢

[-] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 11 points 14 hours ago

NHS is communism and means that people get less health care

This is classic from the 1990s. Back then in the US, you could just say any crazy shit about countries with universal healthcare and no one would call you out on it because no one knew any better. A whole lot of talk about “death panels” and how everyone living under universal healthcare has to wait years to have a mole removed and everyone hates it. Then with the internet most people who are currently under 40-45 realize that’s total bullshit.

I still come across boomers who believe this, and I usually will just mock them and say even if the British have complaints about the NHS, when you tell them stories about US healthcare they will think you are taking a piss, because no one would think that such a deranged healthcare system should exist.

[-] Verenata@hexbear.net 6 points 13 hours ago

The NHS is a joke and if you are ND you WILL NEVER get treatment or support unless you become a danger to others.

That's unacceptable.

But in terms of getting life saving/aiding surgery and medical care or for A&E situations, nobody gets made bankrupt, nobody gets their dying mother rejected for chemotherapy, nobody has to worry about the anesthetic timer running out.

The NHS is a jewel, anyone who thinks it's not necessary is too privileged to need it and they deserve to pay more NI.

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