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I agree, I wonder when governments will start. And I wonder how well it will go
it's got its problems, but I think The Ministry for the Future by Kim Robinson is was 100% right about this, there will be some massive heatwave in the next decade or so that kills millions in somewhere like India that will make the country take unilateral action which will open pandora's box. as for how well it will go, i think it's impossible to say. we dont have good enough models about earth's climate to say with any degree of confidence other than stuff like "will probably cause mass famines in x number of regions in the world due to drought, and cause terrible natural disasters in others. will probably lower the temperature though"
Robinson’s interview on revleft really convinced me he did the homework to accurately portray a realistic best-case scenario (note: best case in that he still has massive amounts of hopium that is technically possible).
wow, didnt know he went on there lol. his solutions were kind of strange, there would be libsiht like "cryptocoin buts its called ecocoin and actually works as a carbon credit somehow!" and then the next chapter was "children of kali are killing like 100 ceos per month with drone swarms and its... working..." honestly i wouldnt even mind it if he would have put in some MLs taking over countries
It’s great listen. It’s what got me to read the book. On it he admits the liberalism present is an acknowledgement of his material circumstances and that it wouldn’t be authentic for him wrote more radically because it he can’t mantle the perspective of a person less comfortable. The dude is totally self-aware. His hopium is him writing from a self-acknowledged position privilege because he didn’t want to larp (paraphrasing).
In the interview he talks about how his partner is a scientist and most of solutions are based on conversations with them. It’s been a minute so I’ll leave it at that to avoid misrepresenting.
that's actually really cool, that level of self awareness is really rare imo. i should say i really enjoyed the book, and if if someone is on the fence about it i would recommend reading it, was more just saying i cant fully endorse the book lol
Chiming in to second that, just read it. Not endorsing everything, but it’s a net endorse as opposed to a net “ignore this”.
only other caveat is it's an unorthodox read, i enjoyed it but i remember getting one of my friends to read it and they said it was too dry sometimes